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Just my two cents here.

What i really miss from the slimdevices platform and my music listning sessions in gerenal is.

The ability to search my music collection like i could with Slim.
Many times when i want to hear a song it takes ages to locate it where with Slim i could just search in tracks, artist, albums ans so on.

I also miss that there is a NEW MUSIC folder where twonky automatically puts new music in.

I also think that the displays in the current control points are to small .
I want to easyly see the artist the album the track name , bit rate all at ones.

If thise 3 things gets implemented il have no further things to complain about with the ds system.

Thanks

Emil,

Have you seen this:

http://forums.linn.co.uk/bb/showthread.php?tid=1028

Lets you control a DS through the SlimDevices software/hardware.

Looks very promising

Holy cow diddent see that.

Im starting to see why linn chose this route.

Il have a closer look at it tonight.

all the best

You are 100% right. Linn have completely underestimated the value of a decent user experience, which allows us to explore our libraries. They have missed a complete generation change in IT, where searching, finding, linking, connecting, wandering around in data is a fundamental part of how people use technology. Sonic quality (which of course they are superb at) is just not enough any more.

The SkweezyDS solution which another poster has highlighted is a wonderfully creative idea. It is, however, embarrassing that it's a spare time activity for an enthusiast rather than one of several streams of core user interface development by Linn. Seems to show that Linn still doesn't "get it".

If I sound cranky, it's because I lived through years of the Kivor, which had great sound but an appalling user interface; I fear being stuck with another generation of semi-usable technology at huge cost (let's not forget that the Klimax DS is incredibly expensive, as was the Kivor which I've just written off!). Technology, and how Linn's customers use it, has moved on. Time for Linn to do the same.

I agree i see it again and again people in the hifi comunityes are turned of by linn platform and are not buying into it .

I read it over and over again that the are completly turn of by the fact that you have to go out and by your self sourgt out from many different possibilitys what you decided to control it, with and to make things worse thise controlers dont really work proberly with all kinds of bugs, and last but not least what about the fact that when you finaly find somthing that works half decend and put down alot of money for it 2 month later its outdated because ds control platforms devlopment are going in anoter direction.

Soner or later Linn are going to face the fact that 96% of therte potential new customers are used to the slimdevices platform and the simply dont want to use time and effort in learing have to, one more time espicialy when teh platform is so unstabel.

I love the sound but i really hate the fact that linn hassent made its owen control system that WORKS and as a customer if you have troubel with it you dont have to call 4 different companyes sourting out what whent wrong.

Its plain mad

I don't agree at all, I'm afraid.

I think that Linn have done a great thing by making it all open source, so that projects like SkweezyDS can happen. If they had their own people focussing on producing a slick, in house, interface, they would want to protect the intellectual property involved, and we'd be much less likely to see all of the options which are currently being produced around iPhone/iTouch control, linking to Squeezebox remotes etc.

I somwhat agree .

But the synical reality is that right now you have to go through a long learning period + by you self sourgt out what controler you like and make it all work, thats way to much hassel for alot of people.

You know when i found out about the slimdevices products i thourgt when its so cheap il giv it a shot, what i found out was that the control platform where a revalation in have to play you music.
Sound was okay but massiv worldwide succes was nothing to do with sound it was because of have absolutly nice and easy it was and is to work with.

Display is extremly easy to navigate with , the remote only needs 2 batterys and it will run forver, you get all the good things and none of the bad.

Now dont get me wrong here i love the sound wich i find miles more musical then eny slimdecies produtcs.
I have always loved and admired linn sources and now im abel to have a linn source and listen to music like the way im used to and love with the slim products .
but still think that the platform are way to complicated, i think that 95 % of people would like somthing as simpel as possibel to set up and browse music with , somthing like itunes.

Sometime less is more

That conclusion doesn't necessarily hold. It is possible for a hardware-focused company to have BOTH an open interface AND a strikingly good user interface design.

My point is that the Klimax DS is priced at a truly extraordinary price, and its customers should demand a truly extraordinary product. It fits that bill sonically. Saying to someone who has forked out that amount of money "It's open source so you can go and build your own user interface", or "If you hang around for a year or so lots of enthusiasts will build something clever" just doesn't cut it, for me at least.

Yes. And it's not just ease of setup and browsing. It's the belief that music is there to be explored. An interface which does not support this, is not fit for the modern age.