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RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Tytus - 2012-02-15 16:28
Hi
I have a problem. I've done everything like you say in first post but nothing has changed. I found one different [img]C:\Documents and Settings\Tytus\Moje dokumenty\Moje obrazy\PuTTY.jpg[/img][attachment=3793]
I have no green colour of the files name. Maybe this is the problem?
Sorry for my english
Tytus
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Briain - 2012-02-15 17:04
Hi
I can see the existing trees from your ls (list) command, but your screen dump does not show you're attempt to copy the new ones to there (and thus overwrite the ones you have showing at the moment). If you try the copy (cp) bit again, then send me the screenshot of that, I'll maybe be able to see what is happening.
Remember to put a space between the star (which means 'everything') and the dot (which means 'to here'):
cp /share/YourChosenShare/YourTreeFolder/* .
You will then need to perform a Twonky database rebuild to pick the new menus up.
Bri
PS If you are still unsure whether it's working or not, you can instead use the 'interactive' copying option by adding -i after the cp command, so that would give you something like the below:
cp -i /share/YourChosenShare/YourTreeFolder/* .
It will then ask if you are sure that you wish to overwrite the existing files and prompt you to type a y or n (for yes or no). This will be asked for each file, so just keep hitting the y key. If if doesn't ask that, then you know something is not right with your command (maybe it's not correctly pointing to the new tree folder), but if it does ask you, you know you're doing it correctly.
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Tytus - 2012-02-16 09:13
Hi Briain,
Thanks alot for help. I found the right folder, got the files copied and it is working fine. Problem was with server softweare. When I instal the new Twonky 6.0.38 QPKG's then I should switch off the main old Twonky. Now it is working great with new trees.
Thanks
Tytus
P.S. It is working fine with Fujitsu Celvin Servers
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Briain - 2012-02-16 11:22
Hi
That's great news! I should have thought of that as I'm aware that it has happened to a couple of other people. The QPKG version is supposed to disable the embedded Twonky when it's enabled, but it seems that it doesn't correctly do so on all models. As you have discovered, the way to fix that is to untick the existing UPnP server in the services section of the Qnap config web page, then enable the new version from the QPKG section of the config pages.
Bri
PS I've not heard of these Fujitsu Celvin devices; I'll go have a look at the www and see what they look like
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - ChrisW - 2012-02-16 12:19
Bri - I've not heard of these Fujitsu Celvin devices; I'll go have a look at the www and see what they look like ...
They look remarkably like a QNAP
http://ts.fujitsu.com/rl/celvin_nas_server/ (truly terrible website - good example of why not to use Flash for text.)
When I finally got to the software spec: Twonky 5.1 ? - oh dear. I wonder if this is current?
Linn forum members may find it bizarre to see a manufacturer replacing "K"s with "C"s in a product name
Could the name have anything to do with this, I wonder? http://www.fujitsu.com/global/news/pr/archives/month/2009/20091021-02.html
Ah, I see from here http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/storage-appliances/365725/fujitsu-celvin-q800 that it is actually a rebranded QNAP 459Pro+.
Looks like you can load the QNAP OS on them too: http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?p=207852 - although I suspect the two-year warranty would be out the window
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Briain - 2012-02-16 12:57
That's quite interesting! I know that Cisco adopted Qnap hardware and thus had a range of NAS devices that looked similar (from memory, I think that the disk trays are slightly different) but I can't find the page showing them all (just this page) so maybe they're now manufacturing their own hardware.
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Fei - 2012-02-18 13:47
Briain,
My QNAP just updated firmware to 3.6.0 Build 0210T and now Twonky QPKG 6.0.38 is not working properly and not using your latest trees that I installed following your instructions. I tried to disable Twonky QPKG and re-enable and it is unable to stay enabled. After a minute or so it automatically disables. Looking at the release notes for the new firmware 3.6.0, I noticed that they upgraded the UPnP Media Server to Twonky 6.0.38. I enabled this and Twonky is working fine, however I cannot figure out how to change the trees to your advanced trees. Please help.
Also, what is the difference between Twonky QPKG 6.0.38 and Twonky 6.0.38 QNAP installs for the UPnP Media Server?
Fei
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Briain - 2012-02-18 18:34
Hi Fei
You have to disable the internal one (under 'Application Servers' -> 'UPnP Media Server', then you can enable the QPKG version (under 'Application Servers' -> 'QPKG Center'). You can't change the trees with the embedded version of Twonky as the Qnap simply overwrites them again with the standard ones (this is part of the Qnap's 'self fixing' feature); that's why it's still best to use the QPKG (even though both are now 6.0.38).
I wasn't aware that 3.6.0 was out yet, but for a number of weeks, I ran the beta version of the 3.6.0 firmware (with 6.0.38 embedded version of Twonky disabled) and with the 6.0.38 Twonky QPKG; I had no problems (I'm currently using beta Qnap FW 3.6.0 and testing Twonky 6.0.39).
Bri
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Fei - 2012-02-19 03:30
Bri,
Things are unfortunately not working as they should. With QNAP firmware 3.6.0 as mentioned, even with UPnP Twonky disabled, the Twonky QPKG is not able to stay enabled and will automatically disenable itself after a minute.
Next step, I tried to remove the Twonky QPKG and re-install. Trying to re-install the file from the beginning of your past, that I used previously, I get the following error message "TwonkyMedia 6.0.38 installation failed. ./data.tar.gz file not found." Then I went to the listing of available QPKG programs and tried to install Twonky QPKG directly from there. Also, installation fails.
Now I am SOL. Can use the stock Twonky UPnP 6.0.38, but it is virtually useless to me as I have a large music library and tagged everything for express discovery using Album Artist.
Please help if you can identify a route back to using Twonky QPKG with your trees.
Thanks,
Fei
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Briain - 2012-02-19 12:00
Hi
Out of interest, which model of Qnap do you have? I have a 119, a 219 and a 659, but I've also access to a couple of other models which are owned by friends, so I can test things directly if you happen to have a model I've access to.
In general, if that happened to me, I'd likely try the following things: updating the NAS FW again (even though you'll be updating it to the same FW that you have at the moment), then disable the embedded Twonky, then try reinstalling the Twonky 6.0.38 QPKG. If you can't install that one, try installing the 6.0.34 QPKG.
The other option might be to roll back to the previous FW (though ensure your backup is up to date before doing that) and install the 6.0.38 QPKG, then live with that until Qnap support (or the Qnap forum) can provide some answers on why there's a problem with the QPKG on your model.
Now that 3.6.0 is out, I'll try updating my 219 and installing the latest QPKG (it's still on the previous FW and Twonky 6.0.34 QPKG).
Bri
PS Before trying any of the above, you could try changing the trees on the embedded Twonky, and making them executable might just keep them there (I've no idea if it will - or not - with 3.6.0 and your particular model). In the past, Intel Qnaps didn't replace the trees, but Marvel ones did (though in the previous FW, Intel ones also replaced them). With the Marvel ones, I had to first delete the trees (navigate to /views and rm *) then copy the replacement trees over, then chmod +x * (again, do that from within the /views directory). I'm not near a Qnap at the moment, and I can't remember where the embedded trees live, but the following will identify the folder: find -name view-definitions.xml (or just wait and I'll post the location here a little later today).
Edit: Below shows where the trees live in the embedded version of Twonky:
/mnt/ext/opt/twonkymedia/resources/views