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RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Budgie - 2012-06-22 16:06
(2012-06-20 14:33)Briain Wrote: I still occasionally do it (putting a space in after the comma is just too natural a typing action) so I'm often going back and sorting it out (and I'm also bad for typos in the genre field)!
Hi Briain,
Well I have checked my tagging, upgraded to 6.0.39, rebuilt database, set rescan to -1, restarted server and I still am getting duplicate genre containers showing for the genres which I have used in tags with two genres.
Can you think of anything else I can try to purge this problem?
Regards,
Budgie
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Briain - 2012-06-22 18:01
Hi
The rescan thing was about the missing m3u playlists (not the tagging); are the playlists now back?
It's difficult to say what's causing the genre issue, but my best guess would be that there's something odd with the tagging and one possibility is that there are oddball tags that you're not actually seeing (but that are causing Twonky grief). The best thing to do is to copy one of the albums to your PC and run tag.exe to see exactly what's in there. I did that a while back and following a tip-off from someone (I think it was 'MinimServer' Simon) I found an obsolete image embedding scheme and cleared tonnes of useless rubbish from about 10 of my albums!
I've found other odd tagging issues in the past (particularly MusicBrains tags causing chaos to folks running SlimServer (multiple appearances of the same album, each with only some tracks in it) and found these by running tag.exe. I then added these fields to MP3TAG such that I could delete the tags (and that sorted it). I am not aware of anything like that which can upset Twonky, but checking to see what is actually in there would be the next logical step.
Best way to do it is to download tag.exe and then create an easy to navigate to directory (say, C:\test) and dump it there (and your album track). You can then open a command prompt (Start -> Run -> cmd) and navigate to your new directory and type 'tag <filename>. See below for an example of me doing exactly that:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Briain>cd c:\test
C:\test>tag "14 - Rhythm Twins.flac"
Tag - Automatic Tag from filename
Copyright © 2002-2003 Case. Minor additions by Neil Popham, 2004-2007
Version 2.0.52, Compiled 2007-05-04
C:\test\14 - Rhythm Twins.flac
Format: FLAC
Details: 88200 Hz Stereo, 2303 kbps, playtime 00:35
Tag: FLAC
Title: Rhythm Twins
Artist: Sam Bush / David Grisman
Album: Hold On, We're Strummin'
Year: 2003
Track: 14
Genre: Bluegrass
Comment:
HDTRACKS=HDtracks.com
ISRC=USAD49900274
BARCODE=HD715949105425
ALBUMARTIST=Grisman, David
ENSEMBLE=Grisman, David
ORGANIZATION=Acoustic Disc
Tip: You don't have to type C:\test>tag "14 - Rhythm Twins.flac"; you only type C:\test>tag 14 and then hit the tab key (as that's the only file beginning with 14, it will auto-complete the line for you).
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Budgie - 2012-06-22 23:34
(2012-06-22 18:01)Briain Wrote: HiHi Briain,
The rescan thing was about the missing m3u playlists (not the tagging); are the playlists now back?
It's difficult to say what's causing the genre issue, but my best guess would be that there's something odd with the tagging and one possibility is that there are oddball tags that you're not actually seeing (but that are causing Twonky grief). The best thing to do is to copy one of the albums to your PC and run tag.exe to see exactly what's in there. I did that a while back and following a tip-off from someone (I think it was 'MinimServer' Simon) I found an obsolete image embedding scheme and cleared tonnes of useless rubbish from about 10 of my albums!
I've found other odd tagging issues in the past (particularly MusicBrains tags causing chaos to folks running SlimServer (multiple appearances of the same album, each with only some tracks in it) and found these by running tag.exe. I then added these fields to MP3TAG such that I could delete the tags (and that sorted it). I am not aware of anything like that which can upset Twonky, but checking to see what is actually in there would be the next logical step.
Best way to do it is to download tag.exe and then create an easy to navigate to directory (say, C:\test) and dump it there (and your album track). You can then open a command prompt (Start -> Run -> cmd) and navigate to your new directory and type 'tag <filename>. See below for an example of me doing exactly that:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Briain>cd c:\test
C:\test>tag "14 - Rhythm Twins.flac"
Tag - Automatic Tag from filename
Copyright © 2002-2003 Case. Minor additions by Neil Popham, 2004-2007
Version 2.0.52, Compiled 2007-05-04
C:\test\14 - Rhythm Twins.flac
Format: FLAC
Details: 88200 Hz Stereo, 2303 kbps, playtime 00:35
Tag: FLAC
Title: Rhythm Twins
Artist: Sam Bush / David Grisman
Album: Hold On, We're Strummin'
Year: 2003
Track: 14
Genre: Bluegrass
Comment:
HDTRACKS=HDtracks.com
ISRC=USAD49900274
BARCODE=HD715949105425
ALBUMARTIST=Grisman, David
ENSEMBLE=Grisman, David
ORGANIZATION=Acoustic Disc
Tip: You don't have to type C:\test>tag "14 - Rhythm Twins.flac"; you only type C:\test>tag 14 and then hit the tab key (as that's the only file beginning with 14, it will auto-complete the line for you).
Yes all playlists are back and in the right place. Thanked you for that on another thread somewhere!
OK I shall have a look at tags in more detail. No windoze here so will find equivalent of tag.exe. Meanwhile will use another tag editor from my usual just in case.
Will report what I find in due course. Thanks again. Budgie
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Budgie - 2012-06-24 10:50
Hi Briain,
Red faces here. All is now well. Nothing wrong with tags but the one offending CD was saved in no less than three different locations with different multiple genre tags, one of which had spaces where there should be none. I suppose I must have been interrupted when ripping but one error (of this kind!) in 20,000 isn't too bad.
I have also found that in use Twonky and Kinsky are great for highlighting and helping correct typos and inconsistencies between tagging whether by me of from freedb etc. such as use of "&" verses "and."
All I need now is help with album art and those .@__thumb directories. I have no art on even my non-classical files. How do I start setting this up please? Is there an idiots guide somewhere?
Best wishes,
Budgie
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Budgie - 2012-06-24 22:24
Hi Briain,
Having trouble with downloaded BBC radio stuff recently which used to be mp3 and now is m4a. Not seen by Kinsky. Not sure if it is Twonky related, Kinsky related or tagging issue. If I use Folder route all the files are visible and play OK on DS but they are not picked up under your trees. Any comments?
Regards,
Budgie
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - ants - 2012-07-02 00:49
I could use some assistance with installing a new tree pack on a TS-112 Qnap, Twonky QKP 6.0.39. I am using Mac OSX 10.7.4 to manage the content on the NAS. I am stuck at Step 3 of the process described on the first post.
My first issue is that I am not capable of locating where my existing trees live in on the NAS. Clicking on the Twonky icon in the QPKG section of the Qnap firmware does not open a new window displaying the installation path.
My second issue is that I have no understanding of SSH commands and feel a little uneasy about using Terminal. Not sure how to initiate the session
Therefore I am in need of assistance. Perhaps a more experience user could remotely log in (using Team Viewer) and assist me with this ?
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Briain - 2012-07-04 08:46
Hi
Qnap have changed the QPKG section and it likley doesn't show the paths any more. I've not got a single bay NAS handy to check this, but from memory, it will be something like the below:
Single bay Qnap NAS devices: /share/HDA_DATA/.qpkg/TwonkyMedia/resources/views
Multi bay Qnap NAS devices: /share/MDO_DATA/.qpkg/TwonkyMedia/resources/views
Sorry, I can't help with Team Viewer as I don't know anything about driving a Mac (I've never used one) and I would thus have avsolutely no idea how to start a SSH session on one (though I'd expect it would be pretty easy). If you can find out how to start a terminal window, it would just be a case of following the instructions (and instead navigate to the above path shown for a single bay Qnap). Once you have successfully navigated to the tree location, it's then just a case of typing in the one command to copy the trees over; cp /where-the-new-trees-are . (the space then dot meaning 'to here').
Bri
PS I've not yet fully confirmed this, but I think there's a bug in Twonky 6.0.39 which spins the NAS disks up several times per day. I've only checked this on an Intel Qnap (TS-659) so it might not happen with your ARM Qnap. For the moment, I'm sticking with the Twonky 6.0.38 QPKG (there's another reason, but I'll not go into that here as it only affects my WDTV Live Hub).
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Budgie - 2012-07-10 21:44
Hi Bri,
I am still not getting anywhere with music files (from BBC) which are now put in m4a containers. They just do not show up in Kinsky or using Twonky browser. Any thoughts as to why not? Do you have this problem?
Regards,
Budgie.
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Mihaylov - 2012-07-15 04:20
Hi Briain!
Thanks. Yours Twonky trees are very useful. But I don't got russian trees in spite of the fact that I set Russian in Twonky server configuration. Whether you can advise to make something? (I have access to twonky server files by means of program WinSCP)
Regards. Serge.
RE: [How to] change Twonky 6 menus (trees) in the new Qnap QPKG (and on other NAS's) - Briain - 2012-07-15 12:29
(2012-07-15 04:20)Mihaylov Wrote: Hi Briain!
Thanks. Yours Twonky trees are very useful. But I don't got russian trees in spite of the fact that I set Russian in Twonky server configuration. Whether you can advise to make something? (I have access to twonky server files by means of program WinSCP)
Regards. Serge.
Hi Serge
Unfortunately, the language selection option in Twonky won't do anything in my custom trees as it only works with the original Twonky ones. It is quite easy to re-name the container names (which is what you see on the control point), so you could replace my names with the Russian equivalents and after a Twonky database rebuild, the menus would then show with the Russian names you'd used for them.
The way to do this is to first download Notepad++ (it's shareware, so you can get it free for the purpose of doing this) as Notepad++ will show the layout in a nice structured way (it will make it much easier to see the containers). It also has the capability to save files in Unix EoL format. Windows and Uniu (or Linux) files use different symbols to indicate an end of Line (EoL) and Notapad++ can me set to save in Unix EoL (it's on one of the drop down menus from the top line of options)..
The file you have to change is called view-definitions.xml. Inside that file, you'll see a large page of code. Is split into three sections; mislc, pictures and videos. Inside the music section, there are a few Twonky system containers (needed for functionality, but they're not shown on my menu) and there are my custom containers. Look for the container names just as they are shown on the main menu and you'll see my ones have a minus sign at each end of them. In other words, they'll be -Composers-, -Genres-, -Tunes-, etc.
You only need change the text between the two minus signs, save the changes, then rebuild the Twonky database and that should be the job done. The ontainer names you're looking for are at the very start of each section, so using the -Genre- one as an example, the actual code will look something like the below:
<container name='-Genres-'
So you'd need to change that to something like the below:
<container name='-Жанры-'
Don't change any Twonky container names; they are easy to spot as they won't have the minus signs either side of them. As an example, you'll, see another genre one like the below
<container name='genres'
That is a Twonky one (required to make Twonky work correctly) and should it not be changed.
Bri