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RE: Woodsong Plinths - eye-fi - 2011-07-08 22:08
I take two a day , it helps soothe the pain but I occasionally get the shakes
Something might go missing at Whittlebury
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Cymbiosis - 2011-07-08 23:51
Following discussions with HQ a few weeks ago for you, the word is... It is possible. However, realistically we need a rosewood sample that you like the look of, to supply them with, and then they will do their best to match it for you. Costs will be broadly in a range similar to the Harbans. This is a service which I'm told by HQ, any Linn dealer can take advantage of.....
RE: Woodsong Plinths - paultje - 2011-07-09 00:17
(2011-07-08 21:32)Chris H Wrote: The Graphite finish, is graphite powder in lacquer, over wood. That particular plinth is quartersawn Beech, glued up 3 years ago, recently finished.
I'm with you on this Chris.....I have a Carvin electric guitar made from Koa which is finished in lemon oil. It gives me great pleasure oiling it up occasionly (oooh err missus!), the feel and look of the wood is incredible, truly a work of art......
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Amadeus - 2011-07-09 05:35
(2011-07-08 23:51)Cymbiosis Wrote:
You did your best to find a natural tree sample. The point is I'd like to see a ready plinth from Linn, which has been tested for SQ like any other LP12 part coming from Linn. In my experience only a certain density and quality of the wood will do the trick. I would not choose a plinth based on the look only. I have three plinths and they all sound different. I had hard times choosing between Black Ash and Rosenut, both latest MK with the new crossbar.
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Andy - 2011-07-09 05:53
(2011-07-09 05:35)Amadeus Wrote: Yes Peter,
As I understand it, from reading posts here and on the LeJonkleau Forum over the past 2 years about the sound of Chris's plinths, it seems woods that have:
a) a curly/wavy grain, and
b) a density of between 700-750 kg/cu m (Edited to correct 'cu')
... sound the best.
I suspect the type of finish used on the wood also influences the sound.
RE: Woodsong Plinths - ThomasOK - 2011-07-09 16:40
(2011-07-09 05:53)Andy Wrote:(2011-07-09 05:35)Amadeus Wrote: Yes Peter,
While there is some truth to your summary above I wouldn't recommend reading too much into it. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any single physical characteristic of wood that can predict how good the plinth will sound other than tapping it and hearing the quality of tone it makes. Even using the tap tone it takes experience with a fair number of plinths before you are able to reasonably predict the level of musicality of the plinth.
It is true that plinths with a more wavy grain, at least in one dimension, have tended to be more musical than those with pretty straight grains but not all wavy grain plinths are in the top range. I also stressed "at least in one dimension" as some plinth woods, Cocobolo being a good example in my experience, may have a very linear grain viewed from the front but a wavy grain viewed from the top. Others like some Amazique and some Rosewoods I have sen are linear regardless of the angle of view. These are the plinths that have a long ring to them when tapped and tend to have an excess of midrange energy when the LP12 is installed in them.
On the density comment I'm not really sure if it relates at all. While the least dense plinth I evaluated (Black Limba) was my least favorite as it was weak in the bass range, my favorites (Movingui, Cocobolo and Curly Maple) varied from 35 to 63 according to Woodsong Audio's "About wood..." page. Looking at this list it appears that almost all the woods shown are within that range. One of the notable exceptions is Ebony which is a bit higher at 68. Interestingly, while I have yet to install and listen to an Ebony plinth I was able to examine one recently. From the quality of the tap tone on it I would have to predict it would be a pretty good sounding plinth. Exactly how good I cannot say but I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the top 4 or 5.
So unfortunately, at least at this point, I haven't found a really reliable measure other than listening to them.
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Andy - 2011-07-09 23:14
(2011-07-09 16:40)ThomasOK Wrote: On the density comment I'm not really sure if it relates at all. While the least dense plinth I evaluated (Black Limba) was my least favorite as it was weak in the bass range, my favorites (Movingui, Cocobolo and Curly Maple) varied from 35 to 63 according to Woodsong Audio's "About wood..." page.
Googling wood densities, I got the following:
* Movingui: 725 kg/cu m
* Cocobolo: 1,070 kg/cu m
* Curly (Rock) Maple: 735 kg/cu m.
So Cocobolo seems to be an anomaly ... was that the '63'?
But I appreciate actual listening is probably the only real test.
RE: Woodsong Plinths - John G - 2011-07-09 23:50
This link provides Janka hardness specs for just about all woods imaginable.
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Andy - 2011-07-10 00:02
(2011-07-09 23:50)John G Wrote: This link provides Janka hardness specs for just about all woods imaginable.
"Hardness" is a different measurement to "density". (Although they are probably related.)
RE: Woodsong Plinths - ToneDeff - 2011-07-10 12:35
So Chris H,
Is the identity of the pale, stripey wood starting four piles in from the left a secret then?