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RE: Woodsong Plinths - kuma - 2012-06-03 23:47
Would love to see one of your black ebony plinth one day, Chris.
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Chris H - 2012-06-04 00:00
You will Kuma, soon enough.... before Chris Koster arrives...
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Maynard - 2012-06-04 07:38
I see one with "my name" on it.
/D
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Wenge1 - 2012-06-04 08:46
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Hi Chris,
many thanks for your highly informative reply to my question about your plinths and how many you have on the go at any one time. It's a fascinating subject and it's nice to see you getting the success your products deserve.
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RE: Woodsong Plinths - To be a Rock and not a Roll - 2012-06-04 09:58
(2012-06-04 00:00)Chris H Wrote: You will Kuma, soon enough.... before Chris Koster arrives...
Hi Chris,
I take my hat off to you sir !
Although I have never seen your products in the flesh, the pictures seem to a glimpse of the sheer beauty of your work....
I will, at some junction, be a customer of yours
Best Wishes
Simon.
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Chris H - 2012-06-04 13:30
Thank you..
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Joesilva - 2012-06-06 01:12
I've just watched an interesting video from the link below about Bob Taylor of Taylor Guitars and how he has bought a Cameroon company that supplies 75% of Cameroon's legal ebony output. Apparently, the Cameroons is the only place left in the world that legally exports ebony of any significant amount. Up till recently, only 10% of all legally harvested ebony was valued because of its consistent black colour. The rest was often just left where the tree was felled. Makes one think what a wasteful society we've become.
Joe
http://www.taylorguitars.com/about/sustainable-ebony?utm_source=June+2012+Insider&utm_campaign=June+Insider+2012&utm_medium=email
RE: Woodsong Plinths - The Flatearther - 2012-06-06 01:33
Hi Chris, can you rate the musicality of the different plinths. I'm sure someone has mentioned previously to me, might have been Peter ,that Movingui sounds the best. But the Cocobolo grain looks stunning.
Flat
RE: Woodsong Plinths - shoot6x7 - 2012-06-06 02:51
Flat. the only place I know is Lejonklou by Thomas where Movingui rated highly.
Cocobolo is stunning, but is twice the price of a Wenge or Movingui.
RE: Woodsong Plinths - Chris H - 2012-06-06 02:53
Flat, actually, no I cannot rate them with any validity, though maybe someday I will be able to. Thiomas O'keefe has put forth that the Movingui plinth that he has on his deck is the best sounding plinth he has ever heard, (the other Movingui samples Thomas has installed have not equalled the original Movingui but almost,) followed closely by Cocobolo, followed closely by Curly Maple. The piece of Movingui that I made Thomas' plinth from was really, really nice. I wish I could find more like that. A customer I have who has VERY particular ears, and I have reason to believe, as we have sat in the same room listening, quite accurate, liked Wenge better than Curly Maple. Two other of the very top Linn dealers, or techs, in the US, Rick Duplisea of Audio Alternative in Ft. Collins Colorado, and Chris Koster, currently/ recently of Sound Organization?, rate Wenge as the best they have ever heard. ( neither one of them have heard anywhere near the variety of species I work with) Chris has 3 of my plinths, including a Movingui plinth made from EXACTLY the same materials, from the same board, same grain as Thomas' plinth. Thomas did not care for Wenge ( though most of the plinths he has installed were done around 3 years ago, so that could explain a little, as there are things I am aware of now that I was not quite as aware of then. Thomas has installed, and heard about 8 different species of plinths. I think I must have built with over 30 different species so far. I have heard conflicting information.
I would not hesitate to choose the plinth which aesthetically pleases me the most.
Actually, of note... I am nearing 800 plinths to date. I install, tighten, and tap a top plate in every plinth, sometimes as many as 3-6 times per plinth, tightened, as many times as necessary to get it right. I have probably set, tightened and tapped more top plates than most Linn dealers, at this point, at least those in the US, as I know there was a period of time in the UK when there were some serious numbers of LP12s moving through shops. I can tell you with certainty that the amount of torque that is ideal for the top plate securing studs is different on different plinths, although it should be within a range. In a perfect world, it would be the same. Some plinths will require a little more torque, and fewer, just a little less. I do have a precision torque driver, same kind as Thomas, the Sturtevant Richmont Cal 36-4. I do use it for many of the fasteners on the LP12, and regard it as highly useful. I use it on all of the decks I work on, not just the Linn, and also for speaker drivers. I use it for the top plate studs, but I will adjust them to what I feel is correct, not necessarily setting to the torque driver. In the last 8 months or so, another learning plateau has happened in my plinth building, and I suspect ( strongly) that there is more to the sound of a plinth than just the species of wood, and this also helps explain the inconsistent answers I have received from different dealers as to what woods sound best. Wood species IS a factor. I cannot tell you which is best. Personally, I will choose based on my aesthetic taste, as if the deck is set up well, the difference is within an acceptable range for me to not worry about it, and taste will come into play, and, your system/ room will likely have it's own distinct flavor. In my system, I have had some very highly regarded cartridges which just plain, do not work, carts that many people love. Other carts work well. I know the 'flavor' of my system. As I am building plinths, I am constantly thinking about what makes an LP12 sing.....
Also of note.... for those of you who are lucky enough to have Thomas or Peter work on your deck, do not overthink, or question it. I can pretty much guarantee you that they are both highly skilled at setting up LP12s. No sense for any extra negative energy being continued.
Flat, Cocobolo is way, way, WAY super cool....
Joe, thanks for sharing. Yes, I have seen that video. While I absolutely agree with you on the sadness of the amount of waste that happens... and definitely the 'landscape' of socio-economic behaviors of humanity have been changing with time, we have been wasteful for some time. As an example, had the practice of hunting with fire not have been used a long, long time ago, Australia might still have trees. Yes, too much waste, people should reflect more deeply on cause and effect with regard to our actions. Perhaps many reasons for being less wasteful, would become clear.
One last interesting thought.... In the US, say at an audio show, one might meet a few people who have owned an LP12, and still some people that have never heard of the LP12. In the UK, every other person has owned or owns an LP12, some peoples DOGS have LP12s ( it seems like) There is no comparison in the difference of what the LP12 is in the UK, and what it is in the US... none... Over here, on this side of the pond, something must be wrong, as the LP12 deserves a much better showing, it is a stellar deck, my favorite. To Linn USA... you need another good Linn dealer! or two or three...