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RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - Briain - 2012-02-25 15:59
(2012-02-25 13:24)grimreaper46 Wrote: I think it is ear training. I have voluntered to do the Syringing for him.
Yes, but I'd bet you'd not be quite so keen to offer that service if my typo hypothesis turned out to actually be the case!!
RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - wolfmanjack - 2012-02-25 18:55
Much of the information on wikipedia about Linn have i also reas and heared from other places. The history about the LP12 must at least have som little seed of truth was my opinion. I have no problem with that perhaps the LP12 in fact is a Ariston RD11 and one mans personal tragedy might have been a great chance for new company to build a product around. Just the fact that the turntable have a history are giving me a bit pride by ownership. I do not know if it is true that the only amps that could have the isobariks to sing were Naims and that Linn by that time didnt have the knowledge in making good enough amps theirselves. What i heared is that Julian,founder of Naim was a true source first guy who refused to sell amps for the isobsriks if the customer not had a good source,a LP12..
I do recall that i a couple of days ago found a RIAA amp from the eighties,a LINNK or something like that and at the back of it,labeled Linn phono amp by Naim Audio. I have always though that Naim did the electronics and Linn turntables later on speakers. As a believer in the old linn sound the thought of a drop of naim colouration just makes things even better. Perhaps evererything is a myth-and perhaps everything about the new Linn is just simply better. But to my pesonal thoughts,i doubt. From having been a brand with for its time radical ideas,dogmatic sellers,where where everything matters(my local seller for instance refuse me to enter the shop wearing a watch)main leads pointed the right way and all that kind of stuff. Nowdays it seems like Linn are trying to wash away this as it tends to be wrong in time to make hifi fuzzy and complicated. "Good enough" seems like the new slogan and a new Linn product can be missing both screws and having their internal wire harness the wrong way. Linn has become a lifestyle product. In good and bad. The DS lineup does it easy as chips to reach the whole record collection by touching your iphone or Ipad. I am having trouble with identificationing myself as a Linnie anymore,and that feels sad,i even named my daughter after my favourite brand. Nowdays we arent even sure in what tunedem is anymore if one look at the swedish forum. As soon someone have complains or issues about the new linn gears,someone tells you that you must be unfamiliar with the method,dont understand or having a hear loss. Does the profile of the company slowly fade away or is it a strategical move to sell the gear to another cathegory of customers,Wall street for instance.
I understand this is of topic but there seem to be a red line. If you think im full of bull...cs please do not read this message. Please note that im not the author of the wiki article and doesnt try to support it in any way,just that i have a bit hard to erase everything i were told the past 20 years or so over night. It is like saying that the holocaust didnt ever happened the day after you read about it in school..
Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - pekka71 - 2012-02-25 22:46
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Is this one you talking about wolfmanjack
RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - wolfmanjack - 2012-02-26 00:26
Yes,it is that little fellow. I also wounder about the Loeve series in the 1990's the speakers had same drivers as Keilidhs,same linn xovers and the cd player was in fact a Linn Mimik. Perhaps i have misunderstood the whole subject with this thread as English isnt my language really.
RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - vicdiaz - 2012-02-26 03:04
(2012-02-25 11:40)Briain Wrote: PS I wonder if Vic's Linn History page is still on the www? That's the one that had all the serial numbers at which changes were made to Linn stuff (way back to the olden days); that was actually a very useful page!
I still have a backup of it but it's not hosted. Let me see if I can setup it with my new ISP and will advice accordingly.
RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - eobrousseau - 2012-02-26 19:52
Wikipedia works for me...at least the linn milestone part.
RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - giladt - 2012-02-27 14:54
(2012-02-26 00:26)wolfmanjack Wrote: Yes,it is that little fellow. I also wounder about the Loeve series in the 1990's the speakers had same drivers as Keilidhs,same linn xovers and the cd player was in fact a Linn Mimik. Perhaps i have misunderstood the whole subject with this thread as English isnt my language really.
Linn made a variety of products for Loewe and other things for other companies.
Other companies have made a variety of things for Linn.
I'm not sure how useful or appropriate any of it is for a Linn Wikipedia entry though.
In any case, we'll be happy to provide factual information for any budding authors out there.
The fundamental issue remains that the Linn Wikipedia entry is not fulfilling a potentially useful purpose i.e. a factual and informative overview of the company that will fulfil the needs of the reader.
RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - Music Lover - 2012-02-27 17:56
(2012-02-27 14:54)giladt Wrote: The fundamental issue remains that the Linn Wikipedia entry is not fulfilling a potentially useful purpose i.e. a factual and informative overview of the company that will fulfil the needs of the reader.Gilad, is it against Wikipedia rules that a Linn employee write the text?
If that's the case, what about asking a Linn retailer with deep insight, experience and commitment...
RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - linnrd - 2012-02-27 18:14
There may be some disagreements to this, but.... The exact role of Wikipedia is to be deduced from the name itself. It is a an encyclopedia that is put together with public entries as opposed to paying someone to write entries for it.
(2012-02-27 14:54)giladt Wrote: Linn made a variety of products for Loewe and other things for other companies.In light of the definition above, it is VERY appopriate; questioning its worth as being useful is akin to questioning the worth of having the word "ka" in an encyclopedia: irrelevant to all but indispensable to those who would like to know about the origin, history and use of the search term in question.
Other companies have made a variety of things for Linn.
I'm not sure how useful or appropriate any of it is for a Linn Wikipedia entry though.
(2012-02-27 14:54)giladt Wrote: In any case, we'll be happy to provide factual information for any budding authors out there.Perhaps a section on Linn's website that has been "blessed" by Linn would be very useful, and if this is case, there is no reason why the Wikipedia entry could not point to that as a reference. This way a reader can read the official Linn History (how's that for a topic header) and also be aware of the source (and possibly inherrent bias that may (or may not) come with it).
(2012-02-27 14:54)giladt Wrote: The fundamental issue remains that the Linn Wikipedia entry is not fulfilling a potentially useful purpose i.e. a factual and informative overview of the company that will fulfil the needs of the reader.Again this brings us into the sticky domain of what is defined as a "factual and informative overview". Welcome to the world of Wikis and blogs. My personal views on free speech (i.e. let the moron have his say) compel me do defend those I most strongly disagree with as opposed to suppressing their voices. I also think that a counter argument based in fact could me more convincing. If there are differing view of the "facts" then perhaps it is up to their proponents to make a case of their veracity.
In many ways, I find the title of this thread, and indeed this whole thread, rather disturbing for the exact reasons I have outlined in this post. There are better ways for Linn to deal with inaccuracies on Wikipedia than a call to arms from its customers/dealers.
RE: Linn on Wikipedia - We need your help - chimar - 2012-02-27 18:19
(2012-02-27 18:14)linnrd Wrote: There may be some disagreements to this, but.... The exact role of Wikipedia is to be deduced from the name itself. It is a an encyclopedia that is put together with public entries as opposed to paying someone to write entries for it.+1
(2012-02-27 14:54)giladt Wrote: Linn made a variety of products for Loewe and other things for other companies.In light of the definition above, it is VERY appopriate; questioning its worth as being useful is akin to questioning the worth of having the word "ka" in an encyclopedia: irrelevant to all but indispensable to those who would like to know about the origin, history and use of the search term in question.
Other companies have made a variety of things for Linn.
I'm not sure how useful or appropriate any of it is for a Linn Wikipedia entry though.
(2012-02-27 14:54)giladt Wrote: In any case, we'll be happy to provide factual information for any budding authors out there.Perhaps a section on Linn's website that has been "blessed" by Linn would be very useful, and if this is case, there is no reason why the Wikipedia entry could not point to that as a reference. This way a reader can read the official Linn History (how's that for a topic header) and also be aware of the source (and possibly inherrent bias that may (or may not) come with it).
(2012-02-27 14:54)giladt Wrote: The fundamental issue remains that the Linn Wikipedia entry is not fulfilling a potentially useful purpose i.e. a factual and informative overview of the company that will fulfil the needs of the reader.Again this brings us into the sticky domain of what is defined as a "factual and informative overview". Welcome to the world of Wikis and blogs. My personal views on free speech (i.e. let the moron have his say) compel me do defend those I most strongly disagree with as opposed to suppressing their voices. I also think that a counter argument based in fact could me more convincing. If there are differing view of the "facts" then perhaps it is up to their proponents to make a case of their veracity.
In many ways, I find the title of this thread, and indeed this whole thread, rather disturbing for the exact reasons I have outlined in this post. There are better ways for Linn to deal with inaccuracies on Wikipedia than a call to arms from its customers/dealers.
Naim making stuff for Linn is of special interest!!