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Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - giladt - 2010-05-20 16:05
Hi All,
Are you a Spotify user, or interested in the rise of online or cloud-based music services? If so, check out my latest blog.
Please leave any comments or feedback in this thread.
Thanks,
Gilad
RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - Warren - 2010-05-20 16:32
This is probably great if,
1, you're Tim (or a Connector if you've read M.Gladwell's The Tipping Point),
2, your music is both lossy and online.
I'm not a Tim, so I rarely spend time pushing music recommendations. I would only be on the receiving end so wouldn't use this that often.
I don't want my music in the cloud. It can rain or blow away and I can't access it.
The last two months I've been dealing with home broadband reliability issues To the extent my issue is now with TalkTalk 4th line engineering support!
This also means there is no point me listening to DS radio at the moment as as soon as the bandwidth stalls for a bit the DS crashes and reboots.
Also my current experience of lossless formats is that they can't be downloaded over broadband in real-time.
Why are we even using word routed in loss to describe a full format?
RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - spoon - 2010-05-20 17:32
Great link...an ordinary CD, costing $10 the label received 2:1 what the artist received ($2 label, $1 artist), on the iTunes store the same album gives the label $6.29 and the artist $0.94, or a 6:1 ratio to the label. You can see that production, distribution and even part retail costs (from the labels perspective) have all gone into the labels pocket, whilst at the same time the artist receives less than a retail CD would yield (I bet the artist have to pay $0.06 cents for the creation of the digital download...). Quite sad that the artist is being ripped off.
RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - trumpeten - 2010-11-17 14:06
Yes, music is moving to the cloud. Two suggestions for Linn from my point of view:
1. Integrate Spotify and similar services, including Airplay/Itunessupport, in the DS concept.
2. Be the first one to offer high-quality streaming, not only download, from Linn records.
And a comment to the article on Spotify: Yes, royalties to artists seems to have been very low. But please consider it is a start-up company, according to later reports this is changing, an article in Swedish newspaper "Veckans Affär" writes that royalites jan-sept 2010, have been 30 million EURO, compared to only 10 million EURO from the start in 2008 and the whole of 2009. A significant step in the right direction!
RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - Jim Collinson - 2010-11-17 15:15
(2010-11-17 14:06)trumpeten Wrote: And a comment to the article on Spotify: Yes, royalties to artists seems to have been very low. But please consider it is a start-up company, according to later reports this is changing, an article in Swedish newspaper "Veckans Affär" writes that royalites jan-sept 2010, have been 30 million EURO, compared to only 10 million EURO from the start in 2008 and the whole of 2009. A significant step in the right direction!
Yes, but isn't this due to an increasing catalogue size and user base rather than an increase in per stream royalty?
Spotify is still a far from sustainable model from the individual artist's point of view. Their argument has always been that they are legitimising free access to music, and offering income - however small - where there was previously none.
True, when put in the historical context of Napster/LimWire/BitTorrent, this is indeed a step in the right direction, but really one that largely favours of labels with massive catalogues. Interesting to note who Spotify is owned by... the majors.
Jim - Linn Records
RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - linnrd - 2010-11-17 15:29
Two points and a comment:
- Don't care for Tim's opinion or any one elses. I get introduced to new music on certain fora (like this), friends with similar and dissimilar tastes. What happened to actually talking to people about music and/or discovering it for oneself? Is this also another activity that we resign ourselves to be spoonfed?
- Network bandwidth and reliability is nowhere in the neighbourhood for anything other than lossy compression.
An interesting point that no one seems to bring up is...how will cloud-based music services affect radio programming?
RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - Irri - 2010-11-18 06:20
I have Spotify, but I don't use it much. I bought it for my mum's birthday, but she doesn't use it much so I set it up to work with my DS. I like the idea in theory, but it sounds a little thin with Hi-Fi so I generally listen to FLAC. There is also something nice about collecting music. It's not the same as having a pile of LPs, but there is still something nice about adding to your collection. A lot of my Facebook friends are in Sweden and are constantly posting links to songs on Spotify. People seem to choose convenience over quality these days, so it will no doubt be very successful.
RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - advr - 2010-11-18 07:21
Nice blog.
In IT much is going into the cloud and I must say it can be a blessing. One of my friends is also using Spotify on his obile. He is not interested in sound quality. He and many others are used to the MP3 sound and are not familiar to lp's or master quality recordings.
I think rthat's the roblem as well.
For me Spotify as a service is very good idea but I will not use it because of the poor quality.
Neither will I use iTunes because I don't understand it and you must play by the rules of iTunes. I don't like that as well.
I would like the music in the cloud and with lossless quality.
I also would like to have my music (800GB) somewhere in the cloud so that I don't have to back-up it ;D
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RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - Irri - 2010-11-18 07:30
(2010-11-18 07:21)advr Wrote: ... He is not interested in sound quality. He and many others are used to the MP3 sound and are not familiar to lp's or master quality recordings.
I think rthat's the roblem as well.
Good point. Many people have never heard a real HiFi system these days.
RE: Blog: Is Music Moving to the Cloud? - Timbo21 - 2010-11-18 07:51
I've had Spotify & Napster running through my DS, but found after the initial fun of it, I wasn't using either. The quality let's you down, and ultimately live streaming is a hassle, with drop outs etc.
I can't understand why some think streaming TV from the web is such a great idea. Frought with problems, bad quality. But hey, I know of a great way to get all your TV content at the best quality to your TV. It's called an AERIAL!.. (or staellite dish)