Polarity/phase inversion?

[Berlin]

I would sure like to have the phase inversion possibility. I recon it would only take twenty lines of software code or less to implement this...

berlin

[linnrd]

(2010-12-31 01:49)katylied Wrote:  

(2010-12-30 15:04)Franbour Wrote:  Are you sure that you can "hear" absolute phase ?

Yes and not. Personally speaking I'm not that sensitive regarding the absolute phase, at least not to the point that I can hear if the system is in absolute phase reversed without making any comparison but some people are. Anyway, as linnrd pointed out, with some records the difference is quite big.

Cheers

If interested, I can make a short recording where changing the absolute polarity will have a very audible difference to the listener if people are interested. It should be possible to link to it from here for those of a curious bent. Bear in mind that this will be an example of the extreme which should answer Franbour, but rather meaningless in the general scheme of things because most recordings will not exhibit such a large difference.

[Franbour]

(2011-01-06 21:28)linnrd Wrote:  If interested, I can make a short recording where changing the absolute polarity will have a very audible difference to the listener if people are interested. It should be possible to link to it from here for those of a curious bent. Bear in mind that this will be an example of the extreme which should answer Franbour, but rather meaningless in the general scheme of things because most recordings will not exhibit such a large difference.

Yes, I am interested in your proposal.
I have thought a little further on, and I am, now, sure that absolute phase is important. My mistake was to think only of symetrical periodical signals with zero offset. In real life, when we hear a gun shot (not every days) the pressure begins to raise. If we invert phase, the speaker's membrane moves backwards and the pressure begins to lower. It is not the same thing for the ear.
I hope you will understand what I mean because my english is not "akurate"

[linnrd]

(2011-01-06 22:14)Franbour Wrote:  

(2011-01-06 21:28)linnrd Wrote:  If interested, I can make a short recording where changing the absolute polarity will have a very audible difference to the listener if people are interested. It should be possible to link to it from here for those of a curious bent. Bear in mind that this will be an example of the extreme which should answer Franbour, but rather meaningless in the general scheme of things because most recordings will not exhibit such a large difference.

Yes, I am interested in your proposal.
I have thought a little further on, and I am, now, sure that absolute phase is important. My mistake was to think only of symetrical periodical signals with zero offset. In real life, when we hear a gun shot (not every days) the pressure begins to raise. If we invert phase, the speaker's membrane moves backwards and the pressure begins to lower. It is not the same thing for the ear.
I hope you will understand what I mean because my english is not "akurate"

You said it quite well. And the idea is that with some (minimal Blumlein, for example) miking techniques this is very audible, but with multi-miked setups it can be much less so. Given some time I will try getting a link on here.

[Berlin]

Any idea / rumors whether Linn is (capable and) willing to implement this option?

berlin

[Berlin]

stil the question: can a polarisation switch be implemented in the Linn software? Not quite sure whether it could be in Kinsky or in Davaar. Please do experiment with it. I have a switch on my Marantz sa11-s2 and it conciderably improves to choose the right polarisation. And btw, it is about 50/50% wrong/right! So, in half of your recordings you will get an improvement if Linn implements this. My alternative is to swith it in my asset database. a LOT of work....

Berlin
I still have not decided to buy the Akurate. Would like this feature though!

[Franbour]

I think the good place is in Davaar and should work accordingly to a special tag in the file.