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2011-12-23, 10:44
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Does practice make perfect?
Fascinating blog from The Prince Consort piano player Alisdair Hogarth - not much of a musician myself (never made it past bar chords) so this insight into professional performance is really interesting for me:

http://blogs.linn.co.uk/music/does-pract...erfect.php

Any piano players or musicians out there?
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2011-12-23, 10:48 (This post was last modified: 2011-12-23 10:50 by moomintroll.)
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(2011-12-23 10:44)oliverh Wrote:  Any piano players or musicians out there?

Shouldn't that be drummers or musicians....?

Only joking guys - couldn't resist it Tongue

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2011-12-23, 10:55
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RE: Does practice make perfect?
Bar chords should be ..er barred. Always been a stumbling block for me as well.

I think the point to remember is "If it was easy, it would have no value". Is it not the virtuosity of musicians and the way music can impart that emotional experience that makes it special.

I suppose one question might be though, "Was Mozart a Genius or just lucky that his synapses were joined together in a special way"

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2011-12-23, 11:02
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(2011-12-23 10:55)grimreaper46 Wrote:  Bar chords should be ..er barred. Always been a stumbling block for me as well.

I think the point to remember is "If it was easy, it would have no value". Is it not the virtuosity of musicians and the way music can impart that emotional experience that makes it special.

I suppose one question might be though, "Was Mozart a Genius or just lucky that his synapses were joined together in a special way"

There is no great genius without some touch of madness.
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2012-01-23, 11:23
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Philip Fowke clip added to article for anyone who'd like to hear it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWTh5FMJZ...ture=email
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2012-01-24, 00:32
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(2011-12-23 11:02)oliverh Wrote:  
(2011-12-23 10:55)grimreaper46 Wrote:  Bar chords should be ..er barred. Always been a stumbling block for me as well.

I think the point to remember is "If it was easy, it would have no value". Is it not the virtuosity of musicians and the way music can impart that emotional experience that makes it special.

I suppose one question might be though, "Was Mozart a Genius or just lucky that his synapses were joined together in a special way"

There is no great genius without some touch of madness.

And those whom the Gods wish to Destroy they first make mad.
Mozart was a hugely troubled soul who found a release in his music. His Requiem, a dark brooding piece, is majestic.
But not for a summer's afternoon.
He may have been the first Rock star casualty.

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2012-01-29, 17:31
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In study of hours practiced, they found a similar pattern of both behaviour and hours dedicated between leading musicians and sportsmen.
The example used from sport was Jonny Wilkinson, hours and hours each day just doing placed kicks.
Doesn't exactly make for the most exciting personality Tongue

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2012-02-16, 17:29
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Interesting question!!

My opinion through many hours of practice is that you have to have some talent in the first place!
If the talent is there hours of practice wil make a huge difference (Rick Wakeman still practices 4-6 hours a day!) but if you have no talent then with 10 hours a day practice then you might just get somewhere the day before you die.
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2012-02-16, 18:46
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(2012-02-16 17:29)salamonscream Wrote:  Interesting question!!

My opinion through many hours of practice is that you have to have some talent in the first place!
If the talent is there hours of practice wil make a huge difference (Rick Wakeman still practices 4-6 hours a day!) but if you have no talent then with 10 hours a day practice then you might just get somewhere the day before you die.
It is the environment that you are exposed to during your learning process, and unfortunately the concept of talent first is overrated.

There is a great book on this - "The Talent Code: Greatness Isn't Born. It's Grown." The book analyzes everything from Tennis greats to Cello greats, very eye opening. And it all boils down to 10,000 hours of practice, so I am going to pick up my snooker cue and get some practice :-)

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2012-02-28, 10:18
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It's a Wall. You hit a wall that depends on your ability. Sure practise is necessary. It was Gary Player, who when chastised for being lucky in getting out of a bunker said "Yes, and the more I practise the luckier I get".

I do believe there are people with, what is labelled "Natural Talent", but it is amazing how many musicians are like a Duck on water. What you see is smooth, confident performance, that belies the ammount of practise and rehearsing that goes on.

I can't remember which Chess Grandmaster it was but the story is told that at 4 years old he was watching his Father play when he told him to play a particular move. Upon examination it was a killer move. Maybe this is apocryphal,I don't know. But it is rather on a par with the stories about Mozart.

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