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Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
2012-03-27, 17:20
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Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
System: Sneaky DS
Remote: Ipad with Kinsky app

Hello:

I understand that saved local playlists only work so long as the router is on. If, for any reason, the router is switched off then one is no longer able to play the songs listed in the local playlists. Apparently this has to do with the router assigning a new IP address to the sneaky DS.

Are there any workarounds?

Thanks,

Lester
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2012-03-28, 05:29
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RE: Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
You can, in the router settings, ensure that each DS (Sneaky in your case) has a reserved IP address everytime it requests one; this is not the same as a static IP address (which is grabbed by the device as opposed to being assigned one by the DHCP server aka router). Depending on the make of the router, I'm sure there's someone on here with the same device who could provide a step-by-step walk-through should you have difficulty with this.
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2012-03-28, 17:52
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RE: Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
Actually, it's more likely to be the case that you need to ensure the NAS has a reserved IP address, as the local playlist is basically a set of pointers to files on your NAS, so if the NAS address changes on a router restart then they are no longer valid.

Good practise would be to set your router to assign predefined IP addresses to your NAS, DS and control point (e.g. iPad) if possible, as this can help to resolve a number of issues.
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2012-03-28, 18:09 (This post was last modified: 2012-03-28 18:10 by Briain.)
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RE: Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
Hi

If (for some reason) you really do need to turn the router off (though most folks just leave them on all the time; they are designed to be run that way) and if you are using a NAS (and if that is always on) then you could allocate the NAS with a fixed address, disable the DHCP server in your router, then enable the NAS's internal DHCP server instead.

You should only have one DHCP server on a home network, but as long as you do the above, the DHCP server in your NAS will allocate the network settings to all your network attached devices (DS's, iPhones, etc) instead of the one in your router. I have actually used that very trick where the DHCP server of my friends* router had failed (and he's now using his ReadyNAS NV+ as a DHCP server). Of course, the downside is that if the NAS is switched off, nothing else will work until it's switched back on again.

Bri

* I must put it all back to normal now that they have a new router; the new one arrived and has been sitting in their cupboard for over a year, so that shows the NAS DHCP alternative is a valid and reliable one to use. Smile
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2012-03-29, 16:42
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RE: Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
Thanks for your help! I will try the different options you propose and see which one works best. I will let you know the results. Thanks again!
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2012-04-12, 10:42
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RE: Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
I'm slowly getting around to sorting out all these small bugs in my system - so local playlists work consistently.

I have a linksys wireless n adsl 2+ router.

I can't see any options to allow me to reserve ip's for certain items, in particular dlink-939056 192.168.1.113

any ideas?

thanks

Andrew

thsi is the options my router gives me:-
DHCP Server: Enable Disable DHCP Relay
DHCP Relay Server IP: . . .
Starting IP Address: 192.168.1.

Maximum Number of
DHCP Users:
Client Lease Time: minutes (0 means one day)
Static DNS 1: . . .
Static DNS 2: . . .
Static DNS 3: . . .
WINS: . . .

and this is my dhcp table

DHCP Client Table
DHCP Server IP Address: 192.168.1.1
Client Host Name IP Address MAC Address Expires
seemas-iPhone-2 192.168.1.101 68:A8:6D:77:A3:A6 78054
seemas-iPad 192.168.1.103 34:51:C9:37:AC:8A 85016
AndrewMesh7 192.168.1.104 90:E6:BA:B9:60:30 69797
Andrews-iPad 192.168.1.105 34:51:C9:27:34:FD 85895
Unknown 192.168.1.106 28:EF:01:28:52:CB 85393
cutemedia-PC 192.168.1.110 00:EA:01:15Big Grin1:B7 40592
Unknown 192.168.1.111 00:13:E0:CC:7B:A3 83123
Unknown 192.168.1.112 00:26:0F:21:96:46 82300
dlink-939056 192.168.1.113 34:08:04:93:90:56 76864
Unknown 192.168.1.114 00:26:0F:21:87:36 84602

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2012-04-12, 11:57
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RE: Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
Hi. I tried assigning an individual IP address to the NAS so that the DS playlists might always point to the same NAS IP. Alas, i could not get it to work. In addition the other computers on the network were unable to connect and so i had to reset my router. I assumed i would have had to assign individual ip's to the other items as well, something i was unwilling to do. My Router is a Netgear and the above option is listed under LAN IP.

I thought about assigning the DHCP exclusively to the router but if the NAS is switched off then no-one has access to the internet. This would have been inconvenient for other home users.

Frankly I see no simple way of getting this done. You change one thing and you end up creating more issues on the connectivity side. For the time being i am just leaving the NAS and the ds on and that works. The day i switch it off... no more playlists.
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2012-04-12, 12:24
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Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
This is a real problem. It's a shame we can't specify the nas by name and ip then if the ip changes the ds looks for the name. This might not possible.

Is there an n+ router which allows reserved ip for nas?

Andrew

Music Room: AK(D), RDS(D) RA balanced mains unit 50va, KCT, M2100 (rear), 350p k400, 345, 340, 212 (rear). Hutter Rack
Family Room: Movie Classik(D), ADS(D), 4xNinka, Sizmik, Trikan.
Garden: B&W WM5 (weather proof)
Business: SekritDS, 4x Katan (+two Kef Eggs).
My name is Andrew.. I'm an addikt.
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2012-04-12, 12:42
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RE: Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
Does Apple have the Windows equivalent of "map a network drive" ?

I have .m3u playlist that work of a mapped Z: drive that have survived everything but a NAS being filled to capacity.

Anyone know how to make his NAS a network drive on the fruit?

Not much
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2012-04-12, 19:10
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RE: Retaining Local Playlists when router is switched off
You can simply mount a volume off the NAS on OS X. It's also possible to have this happen automatically on login.
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