Linn MediaServer Beta

[davidd Linn Staff]

(2012-06-07 18:38)simoncn Wrote:  I tried 4.1.8 instead, which started OK.

When using Kinsky to browse the albums in my iTunes library, I see each track displayed twice.

I've played some music, which worked fine.

Is there any way to configure the browse tree to display more information?

Hi Simon,

I am surprised you got that crash as that bug has been fixed! I think something must have gone a rye in building the release I will have a look to see what went wrong when I am back in tomorrow. 4.1.8 has all sorts of issues so I would not expect it to operate correctly... It will also cause you grief when you install a newer version. So when you upgrade first uninstall 4.1.8 then delete all the settings from C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Linn

Cheers,
David

[Rik]

(2012-06-07 18:51)grahamd Wrote:  

(2012-06-07 17:58)Rik Wrote:  Very nice, but when will we see a media server which can stream Studio Master content? iTunes is still effectively limited to 16/44.1, even if ALAC is expandable to higher bit rates and depths I'm not aware of anyone who sells them.

Give us a chance, Rik. This is day one of the beta for a program that will one day do what you request.

(2012-06-07 17:58)Rik Wrote:  PS What are WebApp's (e.g. BBC) I assume it's just a way to scrape embedded streaming information from static web pages?

Media Apps make internet media available through the server. Don't know what you mean by static web pages here. The Media Apps regularly scan internet-accessible xml and html files to keep their content current.

Graham

My dig was more at Apple.

They have made ALAC open source but plain forgotten that the world is far from Red Book these days. As soon as iTunes / ALAC support higher bit rates (& I can buy the stuff in ALAC) then I'll be interested - 'till then it's FLAC for me. Mind you I'll be sure to take a look at the source to see if I can hack a C# FLAC tag reader into it - but my guess is that you read the iTunes XML library directly - that way you don't need to do any metadata manipulation yourself :-(

Rik

[SaltyDog]

Am I invisible?

[grahamd Linn Staff]

Salty,

You do seem to be lost in some sort of JRiver black hole.

I don't really see the relevance of your comment. Maybe you could unpack it into something more appropriate to the thread.

Graham

[macrotech]

(2012-06-07 19:27)davidd Wrote:  I think something must have gone a rye in building the release Cheers,
David

Perhaps it was a cereal killer? :-)

[grahamd Linn Staff]

(2012-06-07 19:56)macrotech Wrote:  

(2012-06-07 19:27)davidd Wrote:  I think something must have gone a rye in building the release Cheers,
David

Perhaps it was a cereal killer? :-)

very wry

[davidd Linn Staff]

(2012-06-07 20:01)grahamd Wrote:  

(2012-06-07 19:56)macrotech Wrote:  

(2012-06-07 19:27)davidd Wrote:  I think something must have gone a rye in building the release Cheers,
David

Perhaps it was a cereal killer? :-)

very wry

Yes that should have been "awry" not "arye"

[Rik]

(2012-06-07 18:51)grahamd Wrote:  Media Apps make internet media available through the server. Don't know what you mean by static web pages here. The Media Apps regularly scan internet-accessible xml and html files to keep their content current.

Graham

A static web page (By my definition) is one whereby the returned HTML is stateless and doesn't depend on JavaScript doing XHR / innerHTML tricks to update - so that looks like what you are doing.

A non-static web page and it's rendered would be something which too (for example) a YouTube video, split out the audio & send that to the DS - ideally whilst sending the video to a separate video renderer (With suitable buffering for lip-sync).

[SaltyDog]

Lost? I have found my way to contentment. I am quite used to being ahead of the curve in recognizing solutions to peoples problems. Most people are resistant to change and other peoples ideas. I have been doing what you just released a beta to do for quite some time. I am looking back at everyone playing catch-up.

We do seem to get off on the wrong foot more often than not, Graham, but if you haven't tried it that is your problem. No disrespect, as usual, I know I will get where you are coming from sometime later.

The relevance is that for how many years has everyone been messing about trying to get the computer to make the DS play in a way that works reliably, sounds good, and just works as each individual wants.

The lost hole is all the time being wasted by everyone trying to accomplish what I can do in 2-3 minutes of messing about. I am not an IT engineer. I like to listen to music and not jack around with something that works.

My question is simple. Have you guys at Linn looked at and evaluated the program? If there is a reason not to use it from your perspective, I'd like to know what it is. I am not into how it does what it does, I just enjoy using it. I bring it up as it does all the things that OTHER people on the forum want to do.

I get that the apple crowd will go to any extreme to avoid MS W7. I don't care who makes the stuff that works. I don't have a personal connection to jRiver and I don't care what other people choose to do.

If you notice I have not asked Linn to do anything to get it working for me. All I need from Linn now is for them to supply the media renderer. IMHO that is what you do better than the rest. IMHO jRiver does the server and control better than the rest. Your software works well, but it seems to me you may be working hard at reinventing the wheel.

I can't imagine you are not any less tired of reading "Linn sucks because it doesn't do what I want and I insist that you make work with apple" posts. I think apple is the coolest stuff that won't do what I want to do. Being cool is less important to me than listening to great music with no hassle.

Why is Linn hesitant about looking at an open source DLNA/UPnP compliant media server and control point. THAT is your stated mission. Yet all the time and resources are being utilized on a closed proprietary OS. Sometimes people get so caught up fighting the alligators they forget the objective was to drain the swamp.

I know you live in a land where your today is our future. I know you work for a guy and doing what you are told to do is a part of it. I know you can't tell us stuff till it is time. So now may I ask: Are you working on something that will better jRiver? Have you benchmarked the leader in computer controlled music? IMHO knowing only what I know, I think that there comes a time to regroup.

Excuse the packaging of my questions. You have no idea of how hard parts of life are for those of us dyslectic people that can't spell or type!

Sometimes knowing something is easier than explaining why you know it. I know 2 + 2 = 4. But I also know that I would not be able to explain that to you. But if we were to get into a discussion at the pub, I would expound on the fact that 2 X 2 = 4 too!

Kindest regards. I look forward to being led to the light. Challenge!

[bubbleguuum]

Nice one !

No major issue found.

here's some nitpicking / pedantic observations:

• no device icon
• the device's UDN is not a valid UDN
• itunes album containers type could be set to "object.container.album.musicAlbum"
• itunes artist container type could be set to "object.container.person.musicArtist"
• itunes genre container type could be set to "object.container.genre.musicGenre"
• itunes playlist container type could be set to "object.container.playlistContainer"
• DIDL namespaces could be put on root node instead on each xml element to reduce size
• ConnectionManager::GetProtocolInfo() should be more specific, and returned parameter Sink should be empty
• Could be interesting for compat to expose .pls items as individual regular http streams