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Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
2013-10-28, 07:38
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Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
I just bought an Ekos2 tonearm for my Verdier. I also have an ARO on it. For cartridge I am choosing between Skala and Akiva. I am also considering Delos but not as enthusiastically. Has anyone gone from Akiva to Skala or vice versa ? Looking for some subjective opinions.

P.S I have heard the Skala, it is nice, may be a bit soft but I am not sure if it was the cart or the system.
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2013-10-28, 09:15 (This post was last modified: 2013-10-28 09:20 by What You See and Hear.)
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RE: Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
(2013-10-28 07:38)Pani Wrote:  I just bought an Ekos2 tonearm for my Verdier. I also have an ARO on it. For cartridge I am choosing between Skala and Akiva. I am also considering Delos but not as enthusiastically. Has anyone gone from Akiva to Skala or vice versa ? Looking for some subjective opinions.

P.S I have heard the Skala, it is nice, may be a bit soft but I am not sure if it was the cart or the system.

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I doubt there is anyone with a Platine Verdier and ARO who has experience as the combination must be very rare.

However my experience of listening to Lyra cartridges in the past indicates that they can sound a bit leaner and brighter than the Akiva in an LP12 with Linn arm. Your comment that the Skala sounded soft could mean that an Akiva will be even softer if used in the system you heard.

I would also sanction the safety of buying brand new and not used. I have seen cartridges here that are worn out after being purchased secondhand with a description of being "lightly used" or "only 100" hours or whatever.

A friend of mine just sold one such cartridge privately on my recommendation which was described as 100 hours. It was only a notional figure to describe how little used it has been. In fact his LP12 was mostly boxed up between homes and the Akiva would have only covered 20-30 hours at most as his main listening was Klimax DS. He put it on eBay 3 times for £995.00 after selling the rest of his Klimax system but nobody was interested. It was an absolute steal as it was effectively a brand new Akiva at half the price of a Kandid and unique in my opinion. Instead people bid on 4 year old examples that would have wear or could even be shown to be worn out if put under a microscope by someone who knows what they are seeing.

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2013-10-28, 09:30
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RE: Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
Hi Colin,
The Verdier is a neutral table, you hear the character of the tonearm and cartridge straight away, nothing more or less. You are right that Lyra can sound lean or bright or both, actually I have heard that character in a Delos and to some extent Helikon (more in Delos), but not on Skala. The Skala is fuller and warmer without actually screwing up too much on the linearity that Lyra is known for. However I do some times feel that the Skala is somewhat restrained in throwing out those big macro dynamics on orchestras. The Delos could really do it very well. I wonder where the Akiva stands compared to Delos and Skala.
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2013-10-28, 09:57
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RE: Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
dynavector XX2 cartridge --- to the mighty XV-1s also well worth listening to if there is a dealer near you

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2013-10-28, 10:02
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RE: Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
(2013-10-28 09:30)Pani Wrote:  Hi Colin,
The Verdier is a neutral table, you hear the character of the tonearm and cartridge straight away, nothing more or less. You are right that Lyra can sound lean or bright or both, actually I have heard that character in a Delos and to some extent Helikon (more in Delos), but not on Skala. The Skala is fuller and warmer without actually screwing up too much on the linearity that Lyra is known for. However I do some times feel that the Skala is somewhat restrained in throwing out those big macro dynamics on orchestras. The Delos could really do it very well. I wonder where the Akiva stands compared to Delos and Skala.

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If the Akiva is from a Linn dealer you could ask to try it in the ARO. Unlike most tone-arms the Akiva can be properly mounted , as the ARO has a third head-shell mounting hole correctly registered for top Linn MC cartridges.

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2013-10-28, 10:05 (This post was last modified: 2013-10-28 10:07 by Pani.)
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No, it is not from any dealer. I plan to buy off audiogon or someone who has good track record selling pre-owned stuff. Does your friend still have it ?

(2013-10-28 09:57)Audio Origami Wrote:  dynavector XX2 cartridge --- to the mighty XV-1s also well worth listening to if there is a dealer near you

I have heard XX2. It is nice. I want to keep my selection list focussed else there is no end. I have already tried many carts in the past, at the moment I like what I hear from Lyra factory hence I think I will be content with one of their products.
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2013-10-28, 10:31
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RE: Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
(2013-10-28 10:05)Pani Wrote:  No, it is not from any dealer. I plan to buy off audiogon or someone who has good track record selling pre-owned stuff. Does your friend still have it ?

(2013-10-28 09:57)Audio Origami Wrote:  dynavector XX2 cartridge --- to the mighty XV-1s also well worth listening to if there is a dealer near you

I have heard XX2. It is nice. I want to keep my selection list focussed else there is no end. I have already tried many carts in the past, at the moment I like what I hear from Lyra factory hence I think I will be content with one of their products.

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I mentioned his Akiva as it has now been sold and would not use this forum as a sales platform for secondhand goods. The moderators need to keep a close eye as the rules are getting very lax and some people are continually getting a "shoe in" on these sorts of threads to sell their services without reprimand.

As you say the XX2 is nice and significantly better than the DV20 but the Akiva is at a very different level as you would hope for something that cost £2500.00.

If you buy from somewhere like Audiogon try to get it on sale or return and have it professionally examined for wear. Even if it still has a low or half worn diamond it could be starting to sound dull as the suspension ages and that is something that cannot be seen. I have one such cartridge here now which the customer insists has not been used much and is not that old. I am fitting a Radikal and Uphorik , and having examined the cartridge it really overdueue for replacement but can still be used for a few months. Having checked our records it appears his Akiva was bought over 10 years ago. I am happy for him to keep using it as , at present I cannot replace it so is now on our Kandid waiting list.

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2013-10-28, 10:40
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RE: Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
Thanks for the tips Colin. Have you heard a Delos or a Kleos ?
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2013-10-28, 10:58
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RE: Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
(2013-10-28 10:40)Pani Wrote:  Thanks for the tips Colin. Have you heard a Delos or a Kleos ?

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Afraid not. I have heard some Lyra's over the years including the Dorian , Clavis , Parnassus and Titan and all showed a leaner , brighter sound than Linn cartridges at the time. However I have not heard their very latest offerings but believe from speaking to some other LP12 specialists this slight accentuation is still there with cheaper models like the Delos. Another very important thing an Akiva does better but in my experience only on an LP12 with Linn arm is it's ability to allow you to follow the tune.

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2013-10-28, 11:01
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RE: Akiva vs Skala for non-Linn deck
Thanks again for that important bit of info.
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