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2015-02-16, 18:12
Post: #11
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
(2015-02-16 17:51)Briain Wrote:  Hi

It's quite odd; the last three seem to be giving me problems. The third last one - R6 - sometimes starts streaming (but usually, it doesn't) and the two after that have never started streaming. All the others seem highly reliable; just these last three are not behaving,

Bri

There were some errors in the list of URLs that I posted. Here is a corrected version:

Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,[*R1] BBC Radio 1
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R1X] BBC Radio 1Xtra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_1xtra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R2] BBC Radio 2
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R3] BBC Radio 3
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4] BBC Radio 4 FM
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4L] BBC Radio 4 LW
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_fourlw.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4X] BBC Radio 4 Extra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_four_extra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R5] BBC Radio 5 Live
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R5X] BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R6] BBC Radio 6 Music
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_6music.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*AN] BBC Asian Network
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_asian_network.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*WS] BBC World Service
http://bbcwsen-lh.akamaihd.net/i/WSEIEUK_1@189911/master.m3u8
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2015-02-16, 18:24
Post: #12
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
So we have to initiate these streams via the playlist, they can't be selected from the 'normal' radio mode on the Linn DS?

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2015-02-16, 18:27
Post: #13
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
(2015-02-16 18:24)alexm Wrote:  So we have to initiate these streams via the playlist, they can't be selected from the 'normal' radio mode on the Linn DS?

Yes, that's right. The "normal" mode gives you 128 kbps MP3 streams.
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2015-02-16, 19:24 (This post was last modified: 2015-02-16 19:25 by Briain.)
Post: #14
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
(2015-02-16 18:12)simoncn Wrote:  ...There were some errors in the list of URLs that I posted. Here is a corrected version:

Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,[*R1] BBC Radio 1
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R1X] BBC Radio 1Xtra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_1xtra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R2] BBC Radio 2
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R3] BBC Radio 3
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4] BBC Radio 4 FM
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4L] BBC Radio 4 LW
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_fourlw.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4X] BBC Radio 4 Extra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_four_extra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R5] BBC Radio 5 Live
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R5X] BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R6] BBC Radio 6 Music
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_6music.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*AN] BBC Asian Network
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_asian_network.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*WS] BBC World Service
http://bbcwsen-lh.akamaihd.net/i/WSEIEUK_1@189911/master.m3u8

Hi Simon

That's excellent; they all now fly. For your next trick, can you sort the stations' content out (i.e. send them some decent M3U playlists)? Big Grin

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2015-02-16, 20:13
Post: #15
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
If anyone was interested, using BubbleDS Next, I noted the streamed URL for the radio station (Radio 4 in this example) and added this URL to Tunein as a custom URL. Now I can choose the nice new AAC stations from the standard 'Radio' input.

It is of course my local server, but the URL looks a little like this:
http://192.168.1.3:9790/minimstreamer/*/...ourfm.m3u8

Is works nicely, just without the artwork. I really don't like how inflexible Tunein is!

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2015-02-16, 20:16
Post: #16
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
Wow, that was quick! Giving Minimserver + Minimstreamer a try now.
The new BBC MP3 streams sound noticeably grotty to me, so it'll be good to get back onto the AAC streams...
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2015-02-16, 20:39 (This post was last modified: 2015-02-16 20:39 by moomintroll.)
Post: #17
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
(2015-02-16 18:27)simoncn Wrote:  
(2015-02-16 18:24)alexm Wrote:  So we have to initiate these streams via the playlist, they can't be selected from the 'normal' radio mode on the Linn DS?

Yes, that's right. The "normal" mode gives you 128 kbps MP3 streams.

Simon,

can I just confirm that only R3 in this list plays at 320, all the others 128, as it's the only one with "sbr_high" in its URL, rather than just "high"?

I've added a BBC local radio station to my m3u file and that plays at 320, as does Radio 2 once I edited the URL to add "sbr_"

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2015-02-16, 20:43 (This post was last modified: 2015-02-16 20:45 by simoncn.)
Post: #18
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
(2015-02-16 20:39)moomintroll Wrote:  Simon,

can I just confirm that only R3 in this list plays at 320, all the others 128, as it's the only one with "sbr_high" in its URL, rather than just "high"?

I've added a BBC local radio station to my m3u file and that plays at 320, as does Radio 2 once I edited the URL to add "sbr_"

'troll

As I said, these were the URLs that I used for testing (intentionally a mix of different bitrates). You can change all the URLs (except for World Service) to sbr_high to get 320 kbps versions of the streams.
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2015-02-16, 20:45
Post: #19
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
(2015-02-16 20:43)simoncn Wrote:  
(2015-02-16 20:39)moomintroll Wrote:  Simon,

can I just confirm that only R3 in this list plays at 320, all the others 128, as it's the only one with "sbr_high" in its URL, rather than just "high"?

I've added a BBC local radio station to my m3u file and that plays at 320, as does Radio 2 once I edited the URL to add "sbr_"

'troll

As I said, these were the URLs that I used for testing (intentionally a mix of different bitrates). You can change all the URLs (except for World Service) to sbr_high to get 320 kbps versions of the streams.

Aha. Then apologies, I'd misunderstood what you'd said.

Excellent job.

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2015-02-16, 22:35 (This post was last modified: 2015-02-18 22:25 by clanger9.)
Post: #20
RE: MinimStreamer support for new BBC HLS AAC streams
Fantastic! I can now enjoy all the new HLS BBC streams in 320kbps AAC on my DS. Smile
I made a playlist with all of the known (UK only) 320kbps streams. Note these won't work outside the UK (the international URLs are slightly different and are limited to 96kbps AAC+):
Code:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,[*R1] BBC Radio 1
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R1X] BBC Radio 1Xtra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_1xtra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R2] BBC Radio 2
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R3] BBC Radio 3
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4] BBC Radio 4 FM
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4X] BBC Radio 4 Extra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_four_extra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R4L] BBC Radio 4 LW
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourlw.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R5] BBC Radio 5 Live
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R5X] BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*R6] BBC Radio 6 Music
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_6music.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*AN] BBC Asian Network
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_asian_network.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SC] BBC Radio Scotland FM
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_scotland_fm.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SCM] BBC Radio Scotland MW
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_scotland_mw.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*NG] BBC Radio Nan Gaidheal
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_nan_gaidheal.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*UL] BBC Radio Ulster
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_ulster.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*FO] BBC Radio Foyle
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_foyle.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*WA] BBC Radio Wales
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_wales_fm.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*CY] BBC Radio Cymru
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_cymru.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*BE] BBC Radio Berkshire
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_berkshire.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*BR] BBC Radio Bristol
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_bristol.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*CA] BBC Radio Cambridge
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_cambridge.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*CO] BBC Radio Cornwall
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_cornwall.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*CW] BBC Radio Coventry Warwickshire
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_coventry_warwickshire.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*CU] BBC Radio Cumbria
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_cumbria.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*DE] BBC Radio Derby
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_derby.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*DV] BBC Radio Devon
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_devon.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*ES] BBC Radio Essex
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_essex.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*GL] BBC Radio Gloucestershire
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_gloucestershire.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*GU] BBC Radio Guernsey
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_guernsey.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*HW] BBC Radio Hereford Worcester
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_hereford_worcester.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*HU] BBC Radio Humberside
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_humberside.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*JE] BBC Radio Jersey
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_jersey.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*KE] BBC Radio Kent
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_kent.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*LA] BBC Radio Lancashire
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_lancashire.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*LE] BBC Radio Leeds
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_leeds.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*LC] BBC Radio Leicester
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_leicester.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*LI] BBC Radio Lincolnshire
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_lincolnshire.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*LO] BBC Radio London
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_london.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*MA] BBC Radio Manchester
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_manchester.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*ME] BBC Radio Merseyside
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_merseyside.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*NE] BBC Radio Newcastle
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_newcastle.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*NO] BBC Radio Norfolk
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_norfolk.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*NH] BBC Radio Northampton
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_northampton.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*NT] BBC Radio Nottingham
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_nottingham.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*OX] BBC Radio Oxford
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_oxford.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SH] BBC Radio Sheffield
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_sheffield.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SR] BBC Radio Shropshire
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_shropshire.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SL] BBC Radio Solent
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_solent.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SS] BBC Radio Somerset Sound
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_somerset_sound.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*ST] BBC Radio Stoke
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_stoke.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SF] BBC Radio Suffolk
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_suffolk.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SU] BBC Radio Surrey
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_surrey.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*SX] BBC Radio Sussex
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_sussex.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*TE] BBC Radio Tees
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_tees.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*3C] BBC Radio Three Counties
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_three_counties_radio.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*WI] BBC Radio Wiltshire
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_wiltshire.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*WM] BBC Radio West Midlands
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_wm.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*YO] BBC Radio York
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_york.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[*WS] BBC World Service
http://bbcwsen-lh.akamaihd.net/i/WSEIEUK_1@189911/master.m3u8

Edit: if you want to listen outside the UK, replace the "../uk/sbr_high/.." part of the URL with "../nonuk/sbr_low/.."

For those not familiar with MinimServer:
  1. Save the above BBC Radio playlist as the text file "BBC Radio.m3u" in a new folder on your machine or NAS. Be very careful with the format of the file, as when you copy & paste the above lines you might get some unwanted extras. There should be no space before the first character on each line, for example.
  2. Download and install MinimServer
  3. Start MinimServer and point it at the folder where the BBC Radio playlist lives
  4. Go to the Mimserver properties, click on 'Packages', select 'minimstreamer', click 'Install' then click 'Relaunch'
  5. Now start Kinsky and browse to /Home/Library/MinimServer/1 playlist/BBC Radio
  6. Select 'Music Server' as the Kinsky source, double-click a radio station
  7. Enjoy!

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