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2016-11-03, 19:06 (This post was last modified: 2016-11-03 19:22 by Paulssurround.)
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(2016-11-03 19:02)nrwatson Wrote:  h dear Paul
I am concerned a luther vandross lover
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Actually it is good music and sound quality is stunning, although it is not an album I reach for often.

However, the bass line in that track is amazing and background musical detail is excellent.

When I played that track in my system for Sunbeamgls, it blew his socks off!!! Tongue

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2016-11-03, 19:19
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I agree that there are different kinds of bass to use to evaluate a system. On Boris Blank's One Minute to Go there is a deep resonating bass that persists through the track. On Marcus Miller's Cousin John there are deep bass sweeps along with the performance of the electric bass. The bass drum reproduction on Jim Keltner's Improvisation off the Sheffield recording is an excellent test for acoustic bass definition. The list goes on and on, which is why it's hard to have a generalized reference bass recording.
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2016-11-03, 19:51 (This post was last modified: 2016-11-03 20:00 by Tin.)
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My mostest 'bass' track is the first remix of 'Fuzzy Freaky' by David Byrne on 'the Visible Man' album.
And IMHO the album 'Earthling' by David Bowie is very boring if you don't have enough bass.
And of course symphony no.3 by St Saens needs a lot of bass to fully appreciate the organ in it.

As of mungling with younger generations; I think I read somewhere that Canada has very lenient laws concerning age, so maybe Donald could move in with Paul?

PS thanks for Boris Blank, listening to Electrified now. Smile
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2016-11-03, 20:24
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(2016-11-03 17:30)Paulssurround Wrote:  
(2016-11-03 17:13)moomintroll Wrote:  Just listening to Maroon 5 "Don't Wanna Know" on BBC Radio 2 - seems to have some very low, powerful bass in it.

Haven't tried the CD quality version though.

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Some of my reference bass tracks include:

Bob Marley (Deluxe Edition) track "Buffalo Soldier"

My advice is to look out for "Concrete Jungle" by Bob Marley, the "Unreleased Jamaican version" https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Marley-The-W...ase/779174

Second track I like is "Disco Devil" by Lee Scratch Perry, it might be an acquired taste but this particular version rocks.

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2016-11-03, 21:12 (This post was last modified: 2016-11-03 21:37 by Seriousjon.)
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(2016-11-03 14:17)sunbeamgls Wrote:  What do you mean by "bass reference" SJ?

Slam?
Complexity?
Tune?
Layers?
Speed?
Depth?
Something else?

Usually for me its a combination of slam and depth - for all of the rest I go to the double bass of Ron Carter on the track Turiya and Ramakrishna on Alice Coltranes Ptah the El Daoud

Thanks to everyone for some excellent recommedations - As Dizzee Rascal put it so well " I am a bassline junkee and I like it funky" :-)

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2016-11-03, 23:10
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(2016-11-03 19:51)Tin Wrote:  My mostest 'bass' track is the first remix of 'Fuzzy Freaky' by David Byrne on 'the Visible Man' album.
And IMHO the album 'Earthling' by David Bowie is very boring if you don't have enough bass.
And of course symphony no.3 by St Saens needs a lot of bass to fully appreciate the organ in it.

As of mungling with younger generations; I think I read somewhere that Canada has very lenient laws concerning age, so maybe Donald could move in with Paul?

PS thanks for Boris Blank, listening to Electrified now. Smile

Fuzzy Freaky has decent bass if you like wimpy bass, but is no match for LeRoux "In For The Kill" or Nils Lofgren's "Bass and Drum Intro" Tongue

That is the kind of bass that makes a manly man stand up proudly in the morning. Those tracks can shake tooth fillings free, dislodge nails holding the wall boards together and can deflect wayward comets that enter our solar system. Big Grin

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2016-11-03, 23:32 (This post was last modified: 2016-11-03 23:36 by Evo.)
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You could try the JL Audio - Test Tracks CD available from The Soundoctor. The track in question is #28.
(Word of warning, listen first at low volume, before turning the wick up. The track tests the excursion limits of your woofers). There is also a brilliant track #21 on the same CD from Holly Cole.

Another one I really like, is The Battle from the film soundtrack to Gladiator by Hans Zimmer
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2016-11-04, 02:13
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(2016-11-03 21:12)Seriousjon Wrote:  Usually for me its a combination of slam and depth....
While of limited music value on their ownsome lonesome, the cannon shots on the Telarc 1812 have an initial crack at 4Hz that, sadly, the DS filters out (Hint: Murray,is it possible to drop the filter keeping the DC out to a value to 3.xHz?). They ought to give you plenty of both, along with some serious dynamic compression of the loudspeaker drivers at higher volumes (assuming the amp doesn't clip first or go into protective shutdown...especially if the speaker impedance does funky stuff a little higher where the shot continues).

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2016-11-04, 06:27
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Percussion pyromania on the Tag test disc takes some beating
Lovely with the 350s you can hear every individual drum

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2016-11-04, 07:38 (This post was last modified: 2016-11-04 07:41 by Tin.)
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(2016-11-04 02:13)linnrd Wrote:  
(2016-11-03 21:12)Seriousjon Wrote:  Usually for me its a combination of slam and depth....
While of limited music value on their ownsome lonesome, the cannon shots on the Telarc 1812 have an initial crack at 4Hz that, sadly, the DS filters out (Hint: Murray,is it possible to drop the filter keeping the DC out to a value to 3.xHz?). They ought to give you plenty of both, along with some serious dynamic compression of the loudspeaker drivers at higher volumes (assuming the amp doesn't clip first or go into protective shutdown...especially if the speaker impedance does funky stuff a little higher where the shot continues).
4Hz? Is that on the SACD version?

(2016-11-03 23:10)Paulssurround Wrote:  
(2016-11-03 19:51)Tin Wrote:  My mostest 'bass' track is the first remix of 'Fuzzy Freaky' by David Byrne on 'the Visible Man' album.
And IMHO the album 'Earthling' by David Bowie is very boring if you don't have enough bass.
And of course symphony no.3 by St Saens needs a lot of bass to fully appreciate the organ in it.

As of mungling with younger generations; I think I read somewhere that Canada has very lenient laws concerning age, so maybe Donald could move in with Paul?

PS thanks for Boris Blank, listening to Electrified now. Smile

Fuzzy Freaky has decent bass if you like wimpy bass, but is no match for LeRoux "In For The Kill" or Nils Lofgren's "Bass and Drum Intro" Tongue

That is the kind of bass that makes a manly man stand up proudly in the morning. Those tracks can shake tooth fillings free, dislodge nails holding the wall boards together and can deflect wayward comets that enter our solar system. Big Grin
Wimpy bass? I can't find the tracks you mention, but I assume that your puny bassless system misses out on the lowest part of Fuzzy Freaky. Tongue
Maybe you can bring LeRoux and Nils Lofgeen with you?
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