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2017-08-23, 14:39
Post: #11
RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
(2017-08-23 14:27)Sinsen Wrote:  Has it been discontinued? I Can't find it on Linns website. Also I guess I would lose HDMI 2.0 and built in RIAA.

That is a question to which I don't know! Neither Sneaky nor Sekrit are on the website any more, but they are still listed in LinnDocs and the March 2017 price list.
Even more odd is the Sneaky Music DS is listed in Linn Docs as being replaced by the Sekrit DS in June this year. This implies Sekrit still exists. And the Sneaky DSM page was modified in June this year. So...
The HDMI question is probably more pertinent. I have no idea if a new Sneaky would be HDMI2.0. It would seem odd if new ones weren't to be honest. And I don't know what RIAA is Wink

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2017-08-23, 14:52 (This post was last modified: 2017-08-23 15:00 by DavidHB.)
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RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
(2017-08-23 14:27)Sinsen Wrote:  Has it been discontinued? I Can't find it on Linns website. Also I guess I would lose HDMI 2.0 and built in RIAA.

Yes, its absence from the main site (and from the July 2017 price List) seems a bit ominous. Here are the details, if you are interested. There will still be dealer stock and second hand units. But you are correct about the need for a phono stage and lack of HDMI 2.0.

Going back to your original question, I don't think anyone has mentioned that, as you can adjust the frequency, amplitude and gain reduction of the calculated room mode filters, you may be able to make them match any alternative room mode calculations you have undertaken, as an alternative to disabling them. This makes the range of options available very flexible indeed.

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2017-08-23, 15:30
Post: #13
RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
(2017-08-23 14:52)DavidHB Wrote:  
(2017-08-23 14:27)Sinsen Wrote:  Has it been discontinued? I Can't find it on Linns website. Also I guess I would lose HDMI 2.0 and built in RIAA.

Yes, its absence from the main site (and from the July 2017 price List) seems a bit ominous. Here are the details, if you are interested. There will still be dealer stock and second hand units. But you are correct about the need for a phono stage and lack of HDMI 2.0.

Going back to your original question, I don't think anyone has mentioned that, as you can adjust the frequency, amplitude and gain reduction of the calculated room mode filters, you may be able to make them match any alternative room mode calculations you have undertaken, as an alternative to disabling them. This makes the range of options available very flexible indeed.

David

Thanks for the update on Sneaky David. I think it's a shame though. It was my entry into Linn. Without it I'm not entirely sure I would have started the journey at a higher Majik level.
I only have the March price list. I don't suppose you have a link for the July one? Is Sekrit on there?

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2017-08-23, 15:51
Post: #14
RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
July pricelist:-

https://www.cymbiosis.com/wp-content/upl...y_2017.pdf

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2017-08-23, 15:55
Post: #15
RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
(2017-08-23 14:27)Sinsen Wrote:  Has it been discontinued? I Can't find it on Linns website. Also I guess I would lose HDMI 2.0 and built in RIAA.

I think your loudspeakers, even if they have a relatively high sensivity, deserve at least a Majik DSM frontend and it has a very good phono preamp. Forget about the Sneaky DSM.

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2017-08-23, 16:20 (This post was last modified: 2017-08-23 16:23 by timster.)
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RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
(2017-08-23 15:51)mickc Wrote:  July pricelist:-

https://www.cymbiosis.com/wp-content/upl...y_2017.pdf

Mick

Thanks Mick. At least Sekrit's still there. So maybe I would have started there. Why it's not on the website is a mystery.

(2017-08-23 15:55)Tendaberry Wrote:  
(2017-08-23 14:27)Sinsen Wrote:  Has it been discontinued? I Can't find it on Linns website. Also I guess I would lose HDMI 2.0 and built in RIAA.

I think your loudspeakers, even if they have a relatively high sensivity, deserve at least a Majik DSM frontend and it has a very good phono preamp. Forget about the Sneaky DSM.

Good points both. Not sure what RIAA means though - Recording Industry Association of America? I assume he was referring to the phono stage, which I entirely forgot about!

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2017-08-23, 17:32
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization

As turntables are not really my area I won't try to explain it myself, so read the link. Smile
If I remember correctly a certain Scottish company is/was very reluctant with implementing this in their phono amps.
I'm sure someone here will be able to explain the ins and outs of that story.

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2017-08-23, 17:32
Post: #18
RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
(2017-08-23 15:30)timster Wrote:  I only have the March price list. I don't suppose you have a link for the July one? Is Sekrit on there?

Here's the Link (thank you Peter at Cymbiosis), and no, respectively.

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2017-08-23, 17:37
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RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
(2017-08-23 16:20)timster Wrote:  Not sure what RIAA means though - Recording Industry Association of America? I assume he was referring to the phono stage, which I entirely forgot about!

Yes and yes, respectively. Records are cut with an equalisation curve, that makes the excursion required for bass notes smaller than would be needed with a flat response. This equalisation (known as the RIAA curve - you decoded it correctly) has to be reversed by the phono stage to get back to the 'flat' frequency response.

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2017-08-23, 18:07
Post: #20
RE: Custom filters only on a Majik DSM/2
(2017-08-23 17:32)DavidHB Wrote:  
(2017-08-23 15:30)timster Wrote:  I only have the March price list. I don't suppose you have a link for the July one? Is Sekrit on there?

Here's the Link (thank you Peter at Cymbiosis), and no, respectively.

David

Yes.. and.. Yes Wink
Sekrit's there - under Custom Install, last page. I presume because it's designed to go in a rack and hidden away.

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