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Linn DS now supports Spotify Connect
2017-08-30, 13:35
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Linn DS now supports Spotify Connect
We’re delighted to announce the integration of Spotify Connect into Linn DS players.

Spotify is the world’s most popular streaming service. Linn DS owners can now stream direct from this; just install Davaar 59 to access their 2 billion playlists and 30 million songs.

Browsing of Spotify content and curation of playlists is slightly different to other streaming services – it uses Spotify’s own app, available on iOS, Android, Mac or Windows. Once you start listening to Spotify content, Kazoo can optionally be used to play, pause, stop & skip tracks as normal; just update Kazoo to v4.11.240.

Note that Spotify Connect requires a Spotify Premium subscription.

We hope you enjoy this additional way of exploring new music.
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2017-08-30, 14:58 (This post was last modified: 2017-08-30 14:59 by popko.)
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First experience: works great. This is major!

Now please work on supporting Chromecast audio streaming such as can be done on devices under https://www.google.com/chromecast/built-in/audio/
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2017-08-31, 09:34
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(2017-08-30 14:58)popko Wrote:  Now please work on supporting Chromecast audio streaming such as can be done on devices under https://www.google.com/chromecast/built-in/audio/

This will not happen - it requires additional hardware in the device so cannot be done by a software upgrade
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2017-09-01, 08:30
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I'm not a big Spotify user at the moment, but that could change if they ever introduce lossless streaming (which is rumored to be coming at some point).

In any event, I'm very happy to see this announcement, and am surprised it has not garnered more attention. I am all in favor of Linn's offering more options to its users, even if they are not particular favorites of Linn itself. I look forward to seeing more integration with third party services/protocols in the future.

Thanks, Linn!

(2017-08-30 13:35)Simon Chisholm Wrote:  We’re delighted to announce the integration of Spotify Connect into Linn DS players.

Spotify is the world’s most popular streaming service. Linn DS owners can now stream direct from this; just install Davaar 59 to access their 2 billion playlists and 30 million songs.

Browsing of Spotify content and curation of playlists is slightly different to other streaming services – it uses Spotify’s own app, available on iOS, Android, Mac or Windows. Once you start listening to Spotify content, Kazoo can optionally be used to play, pause, stop & skip tracks as normal; just update Kazoo to v4.11.240.

Note that Spotify Connect requires a Spotify Premium subscription.

We hope you enjoy this additional way of exploring new music.
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2017-09-02, 06:03
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I do enjoy it very much, thanks Linn!
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2017-09-02, 11:48
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Simon
How is ROON integration going - any updates?

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2017-09-02, 12:58
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(2017-08-30 13:35)Simon Chisholm Wrote:  We’re delighted to announce the integration of Spotify Connect into Linn DS players.

Spotify is the world’s most popular streaming service. Linn DS owners can now stream direct from this; just install Davaar 59 to access their 2 billion playlists and 30 million songs.

Browsing of Spotify content and curation of playlists is slightly different to other streaming services – it uses Spotify’s own app, available on iOS, Android, Mac or Windows. Once you start listening to Spotify content, Kazoo can optionally be used to play, pause, stop & skip tracks as normal; just update Kazoo to v4.11.240.

Note that Spotify Connect requires a Spotify Premium subscription.

We hope you enjoy this additional way of exploring new music.

Simon,

The integration approach to Spotify is interesting from an experience perspective and different to how you have approached other service integrations. There are no doubt pros and cons for both.

From an experience perspective the big pro is that you can continue to use Spotify's interface as you would do normally but simply 'choose' the DS as the renderer when one is available.

Under the covers (I/we assume) the DS is passed sufficient info from the app for it to request those tracks from Spotify (authentication is handled somehow) and they stream directly to the DS.

Can I ask, is this also possible for other streaming services such as Qobuz and is it intended/likely that this might be implemented?

Back to experience, the current Qobuz experience is OK but I have found myself on a daily basis wishing that I could simply 'push' the song to DS playlist directly from their windows or ios apps.

I assume adding this feature would require changes from both you and Qobuz or is this simpler now you have done this one?

Thanks - I am not a Spotify user (albeit having a basic ID somewhere) but it's great to know it's an option.
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2017-09-02, 15:44
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Agree with Martin H's post above and it would be nice to have the same thing with Tidal. Their iOS app is nicer/richer and it would be better to simply select DS output directly from the Tidal app.

Then again when ROON support comes Tidal integration will also be much nicer than the current Tidal integration within Kazoo

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2017-09-02, 23:50
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love it. thanks linn
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2017-09-04, 09:49
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(2017-09-02 12:58)Martin H Wrote:  Simon,

The integration approach to Spotify is interesting from an experience perspective and different to how you have approached other service integrations. There are no doubt pros and cons for both.

From an experience perspective the big pro is that you can continue to use Spotify's interface as you would do normally but simply 'choose' the DS as the renderer when one is available.

Under the covers (I/we assume) the DS is passed sufficient info from the app for it to request those tracks from Spotify (authentication is handled somehow) and they stream directly to the DS.

Can I ask, is this also possible for other streaming services such as Qobuz and is it intended/likely that this might be implemented?

Back to experience, the current Qobuz experience is OK but I have found myself on a daily basis wishing that I could simply 'push' the song to DS playlist directly from their windows or ios apps.

I assume adding this feature would require changes from both you and Qobuz or is this simpler now you have done this one?

Thanks - I am not a Spotify user (albeit having a basic ID somewhere) but it's great to know it's an option.

The approach to integration is set by Spotify - they only support this workflow. (They do have some new APIs in beta however which may later allow us to manage Spotify playlists from Kazoo as well as the Spotify app.)

Under the covers, you're broadly correct. As you suggested, the DS is streaming direct from Spotify. The role of the Spotify app on your phone/tablet is just to queue up audio; after that, if can safely be switched off. One minor detail that isn't quite as you'd thought - the DS doesn't actually hold a track list. It effectively receives a single long stream of audio from Spotify, occassionally interleaved with new metadata.

We agree that integration with a streaming service's own app is desirable and have discussed this with both Tidal and Qobuz in the past. This type of integration would require work from both the streaming service and Linn. The streaming service work would either be specific to Linn or pretty substantial, requiring embedded software knowledge they may not have ready access to. I don't know of any plans for either Tidal or Qobuz in this area.
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