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replacing Linn K9 stylus
2010-07-29, 10:58
Post: #1
replacing Linn K9 stylus
Hi guys, I last replaced this stylus in 1992, and I recall that it simply slides off the K9 horizontally. However, it's being pesky and refusing to move. Am I perhaps missing something? It could be that the runners are filled with dust, but I don't want to 'force the issue' - would appreciate your thoughts!

Also, what's the best replacement stylus?

K9/ekos/LP12 (circa 1987)
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2010-07-29, 12:01
Post: #2
RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
The stylus drops downwards. Best started with a fingernail under the bottom rear lip. However, like for like replacements are no longer made but I have heard of people buying Audio Techica stylii which have worked well but look a little odd.

http://electronics.audiopervert.com/linn...cement.htm

Options to consider beyond that :
1. Denon 103 at just over £100 - superb but moving coil so depends on whether you preamp can handle moving coil
2. Linn Adikt at £375 - not heard one but people seem to like it and it is a moving magnet
3. Lyra Delos at £875 - best cartridge I have heard, moving coil but sounds stunning.

Final option for your K9 assuming it is still intact is to buy a packet of Sterets from Boots (2cm square alcohol swabs). Drag one gently from back to front of the cartridge along the diamond with the knap of the cloth. Will clean the diamond super well and might suprise you.

CJ

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2010-07-29, 13:04 (This post was last modified: 2010-07-29 13:05 by charlie1.)
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RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
Out of interest, how do you rate the AT95E CJ? Whilst I've heard it, it wasn't on a Linn turntable and I couldn't compare it to something like the Adikt. I just wonder how close it is, considering its low cost.
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2010-07-29, 13:29
Post: #4
RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
Hi

CJ's advice is sound although I would add some more advice.

Firstly your stylus is 18 years old and unless you have put the deck in storage for many years or rarely use the LP12 it's likely to be worn.An examination under a microscope is needed by someone who knows what they are doing.If it is very worn it will damage your LP's and so the first port of call should be your Linn retailer.If the deck has not been serviced in the last 5 you should think about a full rebuild service.

The Audio Technica shown in the link does work but is a very cheap stylus and inferior to an original K9.Audio Technica actually made the K9 for Linn which is why the AT95E stylus fits.
The K9 used an expensive solid "shank" diamond rod of very high quality.In contrast the AT uses the cheap "rondel" type which is a cone of soft metal with a bit of diamond glued in.The K9 has a true parabolic cut and polish not unlike the Akiva whereas the AT is a basic elliptical.

The Adikt is actually £310.00 and is an Ideal replacement.It is stunning and effortlessly involving and cleverly belies its basic appearance and specification.It's actually a very altered and souped up Goldring and has some unique qualities designed in to it by Linn .It also has a replaceable high quality parabolic line contact stylus and has the correct mass and compliance for the Ekos.It has 6.5mv output which is strong and will keep phono stage noise down.It is ,in effect the "2010 K9".

Regards.

Colin Macey. WYSAH Beaconsfield.

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2010-07-29, 13:55
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RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
Just picked myself up off the floor Wink

Colin is right on the Adikt price, not sure where mine came from, thought I had Googled it.

VERY interesting info on the K9, Colin. I had not realised how 'special' it was. Presumably the Basik cartridge was a rebadged AT95e? What about the K5 - had that been turbo charged too?

Colin's advice on the LP12 service is wise too - perhaps if you buy an Adikt while you are there you could agree a package deal. Certainly if your LP12 has not been serviced that is an attractive option but the Denon and a service would also be a very good option.


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2010-07-29, 15:42
Post: #6
RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
VERY interesting info on the K9, Colin. I had not realised how 'special' it was. Presumably the Basik cartridge was a rebadged AT95e? What about the K5 - had that been turbo charged too?

CJ
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Hi

The Linn Basik cartridge that was originally free with the old S shape Linn LVV arm was an Audio Technica below the AT95E.It only had a conical and not eliptical stylus so was a little bit "rough and ready".The Basik cartridge was designed as a throwaway and was made to get an LP12 up and running as cheaply as possible.Swapping the yellow stylus over to the green AT95E stylus was a good move it the day and gave better sound.Both used a plastic body which could only be lightly tightened before deformation.A way of boosting performance was to fill the AT95's coil can with superglue and also superglue on the housing and the stylus.This made a big difference as it made for a much more rigid assembly allowing more detail and greater dynamic range.When the stylus wore out you threw the whole thing away as it was cheap anyway.I seem to recall that a Linn Basik cartridge was around £10.00 and an AT95E was around £20.00.The K9 was more like £50.00 when first launched in the early 80's.

The K5 came out some years later at around half the price of the K9 and had a plastic moulded housing for the coil "can" rather than the solid metal block the K9 used.It also had a cheaper "rondel" mount elliptical stylus.At some point the solid K9 housing became unavailable and so late K9's used the K5 body.The later K18 was a much more expensive cartridge than the 9 and had a tapered cantilever and a small allen bolt to give greater mechanical coupling and rigidity.Unfortunately the K18 was a very inconsistent cartridge and many sounded out of tune and lacking involvement.This was down to the long cantilever and the compliance of the suspension and Linn later addressed the problem with the K18 mk2 red stylus which had a laminated suspension with different rubber.

Unfortunately Audio Technica stopped making cartridges for Linn in around 1996.Don't know why but it was not good news as we were very happy with them. To find a replacement we listened to many cartridges at that time.Some did not play the tune and were uninvolving.Some would not fit and could not be aligned or were too light or heavy to balance out .Several were not shielded enough and so hum could be present near the centre of an LP as the magnetic field from the motor induced a signal in the cartridge coils.Several sounded dull or too bright because the compliance was unsuited .Many were pliable and not rigid with "bendysnap" construction and so did not have the clarity ,detail and dynamic range we required as all of the tonearms concept of rigidity was effectively neutered.Together with many retailers we settled on the Dynavector 20X which has rigid construction and works well in Linn arms.John Burns ,who distributes Dynavector in the UK actually worked at Linn for many years and the DV20 came about as he saw the opportunity to help develop a cartridge suited for the vacancy left by the K9.The Adikt was released some years after the K9 was discontinued and now that the DV20 £450.00, the Adikt is nearer to the price many are prepared for if changing from a K9.

Regards.

Colin Macey. WYSAH Beaconsfield.

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2010-07-29, 15:58
Post: #7
RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
Very interesting. I also have a brand new Linn Metak on my 'to be dealt with list' that might link into the reason AT was dropped from Linn's roster. It is a moving coil but looks very like a K9. It is absolutely brand new so I haven't even tried it - I picked it up from a guy who brought in by Linn to run a quality control program. He was given it by Ivor when he left with an LP12 that he never put together. The latter is now the guts of my own LP12. I understand that the Metak was only given to Linn employees at the time. I GUESS that this was a kind of trial. Not sure why it did not go to general release - perhaps the pricing from AT was not agreeable or a range of other possible reasons.

Ever thought of writing a book Colin?

CJ

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2010-07-29, 16:19
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RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
(2010-07-29 15:42)What You See and Hear Wrote:  The Linn Basik cartridge that was originally free with the old S shape Linn LVV arm was an Audio Technica below the AT95E.

An AT93 clone, I seem to recall.

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2010-07-29, 18:02
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RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
(2010-07-29 15:58)CJ1045 Wrote:  Ever thought of writing a book Colin?

CJ

I have to say that Colin's knowledge does seem encyclopaedic. V impressive

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2010-07-30, 03:49
Post: #10
RE: replacing Linn K9 stylus
Thanks for your advice - I think that a new Linn cartridge is he way to go ultimately, but I'll get the existing stylus examined/cleaned under the microscope initially (now I can get it off the cartridge!).

I actually got the AT stylus today and - frankly - it sounds very average compared to the Linn.
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