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When is a Linn not a Linn........
2010-10-29, 11:20
Post: #21
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
Just been thinking about what bits you need to buy from Linn.

Don't think anyone else makes:
1. Main bearing
2. Inner platter
3. Outer platter
4. Drive belt guide (the thing that is like an 'h' on its side
5. Top and bottom gromets
6. Springs
7. Hinges and brackets for hinges
8. Lid
9. Cross-brace

Think that is it. I can think of at least one manufacturer for the other parts or at least alternate parts to be more precise.

CJ

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2010-10-29, 11:25 (This post was last modified: 2010-10-29 11:27 by Andy.)
Post: #22
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
(2010-10-29 11:20)CJ1045 Wrote:  Just been thinking about what bits you need to buy from Linn.

Don't think anyone else makes:
1. Main bearing
2. Inner platter
3. Outer platter
4. Drive belt guide (the thing that is like an 'h' on its side
5. Top and bottom gromets
6. Springs
7. Hinges and brackets for hinges
8. Lid
9. Cross-brace

Think that is it. I can think of at least one manufacturer for the other parts or at least alternate parts to be more precise.

CJ

Weeell, you forgot the baseboard (or Tramp 1/2). Then again as most people remove the baseboard (particularly, as I have heard, Linn employees), maybe you don't have to imclude it? Smile

But then again, as the best sound is when the lid is off, why bother to include 7 & 8?

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2010-10-29, 11:52
Post: #23
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
(2010-10-29 11:13)John@The Audio Warehouse Wrote:  All very interesting posts and as one poster has stated I too do sell products like Funk as I do think The FXRII tonearm is superb as I do the PU7 from Audio Origami.

Both these manufacturers kindly sent samples of the arms for evaluation recently. Sadly, I just didn't have time to evaluate either here, as I just had to many other projects on which needed completion first.................. Rolleyes Anyway, I'll be contacting them both, when the timing is better for me.

The thing this does highlight John, is the need for serious evaluation of each and every product a Linn retailer stocks. As you know, there's lot's of things that draw on our time.... customer deliveries and set-ups, demonstrations, running events/shows, all the paperwork etc and R&D of course. - Never a dull moment!Wink

KR

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2010-10-29, 12:10
Post: #24
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
Absolutely right Peter. Luckly having some time on the two aforementioned arms, I have had some time to evaluate and will be on dem at our fourthcoming event and they fill a void in their respective price sectors.

Moving to another point a member made re items only Linn make, there are other outlets for lids and bases and to my shock and horror, I removed a plastic yes PLASTIC crossbrace which said 'made in China' Sad. This deck also had more blutac in its plinth corners (for isolation!!) than I have seen in 4 packets.

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2010-10-29, 12:30 (This post was last modified: 2010-10-29 12:31 by Cymbiosis.)
Post: #25
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
(2010-10-29 12:10)John@The Audio Warehouse Wrote:  I have had some time to evaluate and will be on dem at our fourthcoming event and they fill a void in their respective price sectors.

Evaluation essential.

"Price sector" Yes, I understand this completely and the gap between the Akito 2 and Ekos Se is something I have raised a few times with HQ.

Currently the Ekos 1s and Ekos 2s (not to mention Ittoks!) are enjoying higher than ever prices on the second-hand markets, precisely because of this percieved gap in the range. This situation has only been heightened still further with Naim's withdrawl of the Aro tonearm - Very sadSad.

There has never been a better time for a musical £2K - £2.5K tonearm to appear on the market IMHO.

KR

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2010-10-29, 12:44
Post: #26
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
Wow - a plastic crossbrace - that's going to a lot -NOT

Inspire make a baseboard which is why I did not include it

CJ

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2010-10-29, 13:02
Post: #27
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
Agreed again PeterSmile, I must say, I am most impressed at the Akito 2b especially with the new cable. Fitted a few now and able to compare to an original Ittok in good servicable condition and imo, the Akito 2b has it. But of course, this is my opinion and I fully expect any potential customer to evaluate for themselves.

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2010-10-29, 13:28
Post: #28
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
(2010-10-29 11:25)Andy Wrote:  Weeell, you forgot the baseboard (or Tramp 1/2).

There are several non-Linn baseboard alternatives.

Regarding the topic - I agree with kuma that any non-Linn component makes a non-Linn turntable. It still may sound good, maybe even better, but it's not a Sondek any more. That's why I ditched all non-Linn parts of my LP12 - I like the idea that one company designs all components, this guarantees the best synergy between different parts and of the turntable as a whole.

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2010-10-29, 14:19
Post: #29
RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
(2010-10-29 12:30)Cymbiosis Wrote:  
(2010-10-29 12:10)John@The Audio Warehouse Wrote:  I have had some time to evaluate and will be on dem at our fourthcoming event and they fill a void in their respective price sectors.

This situation has only been heightened still further with Naim's withdrawl of the Aro tonearm - Very sadSad.

I think NAIM should rethink this. Even if they had to second source/ retool etc. they could increase the price and still sell the Aro because as you say there is a big gap in the market.

It still shows as a current product on their website though?

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2010-10-29, 15:12
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RE: When is a Linn not a Linn........
(2010-10-29 14:19)flatpopely Wrote:  It still shows as a current product on their website though?

Then the website needs updating as to this fact................Sad

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