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2017-07-13, 11:24
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Worth a read guys
Just posted FYI - Comments welcome

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/investi...hi-fi.html

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2017-07-13, 11:36 (This post was last modified: 2017-07-13 11:38 by charlie1.)
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(2017-07-13 11:24)Cymbiosis Wrote:  Just posted FYI - Comments welcome

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/investi...hi-fi.html

Best regards,

Peter

Coincidentally, I was in a record shop last week goggling at the high prices of the LPs up on the wall. I mentioned to my wife afterwards about the crazy cost of my collection now. It really hit home for the first time I think - not that I'm tempted to sell up.

Nice to see the LP12 get a mention and nice photos too.
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2017-07-13, 12:11
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(2017-07-13 11:36)charlie1 Wrote:  
(2017-07-13 11:24)Cymbiosis Wrote:  Just posted FYI - Comments welcome

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/investi...hi-fi.html

Best regards,

Peter

Coincidentally, I was in a record shop last week goggling at the high prices of the LPs up on the wall. I mentioned to my wife afterwards about the crazy cost of my collection now. It really hit home for the first time I think - not that I'm tempted to sell up.

Nice to see the LP12 get a mention and nice photos too.

Here in the US things that I bought in the 70's are on average 10 times more expensive.
So an LP that I paid $3.00 for in 1971 now sells for around $30.00.

A tone arm that was $300.00 in 1972 is now around $3000.00.
This is not a perfect formula but it does seem to pose a reasonable comparison.Rolleyes

So it seems reasonable to me to spend $30 on a new LP.
Not so sure about $50 for a single layer SACD from Japan though?Sad

It is very nice to see the LP12 get a mention!Smile

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2017-07-13, 12:44
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Yes I agree with your calculation. Roughly true for GBPs as well.

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2017-07-13, 14:34
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Starting to wish I hadn't virtually given away my first black ash fluted LP12Sad

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2017-07-13, 14:49
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Just a couple of points from the article:

"At the top end of the price scale is the Linn Sondek LP12"

Obviously the writer has not heard of items like the

TechDAS Air Force One - £75,000

Clearaudio Statement v2 - £92,500

Transrotor Artus - £105,000

AV Designhaus Derenville VPM 2010-1 - £460,000

To name but a few.

The other side of this is the comment by Sorbee:

Don't be fooled, this is just nostalgia. Vinyl "on paper" can sound better than cd but just as "back in the day" you'd have to spend hundreds on top end equipment to manage this. Add to this you will always get crackle and damage (some people like this interference and think it's nostalgia). Ignore newspaper stories like this and speak to the real experts who deal in music, they will confirm that yes there's a vinyl resurgence but it's miniscule and only on an extremely limited section of releases. Frankly once this surge of nostalgia ends as people who were kids in the 60s and 70s get too old not to be bothered anymore the value of vinyl will crash even lower than the 10p car boot sale levels they were at 5 years ago

This discussion will never be settled, I suppose. Tongue

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2017-07-13, 16:27 (This post was last modified: 2017-07-13 16:28 by Peer Gynt.)
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My youngest is approaching 40.

He does have a nostalgic feeling about vinyl because we played vinyl nearly every day during the first 10+ years of his life.

Obviously he's not a child of the 50s, 60s, or even 70s.

So nostalgia may be a driver for a while yet.

He has a very modest system, but he loves the ritual of playing vinyl.

I don't know how the market will fare. I see more and more original early LP12s being offered. As the most successful turntable in the history of the planet, I wonder how used prices will hold up in the face of abundant supply.

Time will tell.

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2017-07-13, 16:42
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So we were coming out of the gym the other day and walking back to the car park and there is a metal grid recycling cage there that people have started flytipping rubbish in. Alison who is a darn sight more eagle eyed than me nudges me and exclaims that someone has dumped some vinyl records in there.
First thing that came to mind was visions of Best of Rugby players Songs, Des'O Connor and Max Bygraves.
Oh well lets take a look..............................................ZOUNDS!!!!

I don't believe this A yellow Parlophone label Mono With The Beatles in practically mint condition, with not a single spindle mark on the label either side. Maybe played once if that. That album alone is probably worth £500 all by itself.
Beneath that a genuine Django Rheinhardt with Stephane Grapelli Mono HMV album in mint condition, again the label displayed not a single mark. Vinyl was virgin black, sleeve and inner crisp and flat with unmarked laminated sleeve.
Decca SXL Spartacus Suite Katchurian etc. All minters. I've never seen such crisp inner sleeves either.
Pavarotti Box Set 3 Albums made by Decca. Unplayed. and so it went on at least 50 albums, probably some old boys entire collection dumped in a wire cage. Did we take them home? What do you think ? can there be anyone out there who hasn't yet heard about the vinyl revolution ? Obviously the answer is yes, yes and yes.

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2017-07-13, 17:22 (This post was last modified: 2017-07-13 17:23 by Peer Gynt.)
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Zounds indeed!!

What a great find!

Congratulations!

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2017-07-13, 17:39
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Interesting article, I think the cost of new vinyl releases for the new teen generation is too high which is a real shame but maybe that will change if it stays popular with them.
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