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Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
2018-06-11, 17:42
Post: #1
Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
Hi Linn, Hi everybody,

In 2014, I was given here a wish list of all the function I would love to have for Kazoo (controller).

Some were answered... and some not...
And there are new ones too...
Functions that I miss cruelly sometimes...

These are the ones I miss cruelly sometimes... Sad
- Show last played album, artist, tracks
- Show new added albums, tracks
- Tidal/Qobuz/Kazoo server : sorting by artist, album, date added

These are the ones I can live without but it would be so cool to have ?
- Saving shared playlist (local and/or server) in a easy way
- "LastFM" or "AllMusic" link to information on internet about an artist (for now you cannot click on "Read more on Last.fm") or a popup window which can gives you the complete bio)
- A way to integrate booklet with an album and be able to read it on the Controller
- Modify the tags directly in Kazoo Controller

I know some of these can be done with Roon but I am not a fan of the way it works.
Moreover I assume that when you buy a Rolls Royce or a Porsche you should get it with the right steering wheel (controller) and the right engine (server) Big Grin

I see that there is now a Linn Labs which propose IFTTT stuff.
I understand this could be useful for some but I first wish to do some basic stuff like sorting my albums, my favourites,...

Am I the only one owner of Linn Streamer to have such frustration ?

Dear Linn, you give us great Katalyst streamers, please give us now a Katalyst Kazoo !

Thank you for reading and have a beautiful evening.
Serge

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2018-06-11, 20:31
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RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
(2018-06-11 17:42)sergevb Wrote:  Dear Linn, you give us great Katalyst streamers, please give us now a Katalyst Kazoo !

I'll second that!

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2018-06-11, 22:16
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RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
I’ll third it. And I just want the timeline to work rather than freeze up! I can live with rest.
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2018-06-11, 23:35
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RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
I agree with the sentiment too. I guess the features are reflected in the price....!

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2018-06-12, 06:05
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RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
Quote:These are the ones I miss cruelly sometimes... Sad
1- Show last played album, artist, tracks
2- Show new added albums, tracks
3- Tidal/Qobuz/Kazoo server : sorting by artist, album, date added

These are the ones I can live without but it would be so cool to have ?
4- Saving shared playlist (local and/or server) in a easy way
5- "LastFM" or "AllMusic" link to information on internet about an artist (for now you cannot click on "Read more on Last.fm") or a popup window which can gives you the complete bio)
6- A way to integrate booklet with an album and be able to read it on the Controller
7- Modify the tags directly in Kazoo Controller

1 - This is a server function. Asset does this by way of it's "Recent" trees
2 - This is also a server function. Asset does this and Simon Nash is working on it for Minimserver
3 - This is up to Tidal/Qobuz. Kazoo server sorts by artist and album. Date added can be done my Minimserver if you use a custom tag
4 - This may be going to happen with the LinnLabs Cloud
5 - This is up to Last.fm sending more info and working links. If they do so, then Kazoo could be updated to handle those links
6 - Bubble DS Next does this but only Minimserver provides the booklet. But I agree it would be nice if Kazoo could do the same
7 - This would be a nightmare to implement as it would affect the databases and browse trees. Control points should only read, not write.

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2018-06-12, 14:00 (This post was last modified: 2018-06-12 14:11 by Briain.)
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RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
I'd like to add a request for the broken arrow/page down/up keyboard functionality be fixed in the Windows Store version of the Kazoo control point (which did all work in the Windows desktop version). IHMO that's a pretty 'fundamental' fault and thus one that should probably be addressed prior to the next release.

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2018-06-12, 14:51
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RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
How did you get that to work before Bri? I still use the desktop version on my Win7 laptop on occasion - neither the cursor keys nor page keys do anything in Kazoo 4.8.xx

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2018-06-12, 15:17 (This post was last modified: 2018-06-12 15:18 by Briain.)
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RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
(2018-06-12 14:51)timster (RadiatorCatHammock) Wrote:  How did you get that to work before Bri? I still use the desktop version on my Win7 laptop on occasion - neither the cursor keys nor page keys do anything in Kazoo 4.8.xx

Hi

Just re-booted the laptop into Windows to check, and I see it has Kazoo CP version 4.8.1159 installed. If - for example - you navigate to a container of albums, then click on the blank area to the right of 'Play Now', 'Play Later' and the 3 dots, then hit the page down key, you can page down through all the albums. Same applies to any other container; click on that blank area to 'gain focus' for the page/arrow up/down keyboard keys.

The same trick does not work on the Windows Store version.

Bri

PS Why is this useful? I was trying to find an album where I could picture the cover, but not recall what it was called, so the page down feature makes that a lot easier (and thus faster) to work your way through thousands of album covers.

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2018-06-12, 15:19
Post: #9
RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
Hi Timster,

I know that there are some workarounds to get some functions by going with other servers.
But I have the feeling to loose the user-friendly interface that you have with Kazoo.

For example, when using Asset, browsing by artists gives you the cover of the first album and not the picture of the artist.

I feel it heavy to have to install 3 types of server just to get what I think are now basic functions for accessing/browsing digital music.

I think that Kazoo is quiet well developed. If only I could have the first 3 points I would already be more than happy ?

Something like that :
https://support.bluos.net/hc/en-us/artic...rt-Options

I really had the feeling that Linn software are always behind their handsome hardware.
I hope that this situation will change with Linn Labs...

But anyway, thank you for your contribution to my post.

Best,
Serge

(2018-06-12 06:05)timster (RadiatorCatHammock) Wrote:  
Quote:These are the ones I miss cruelly sometimes... Sad
1- Show last played album, artist, tracks
2- Show new added albums, tracks
3- Tidal/Qobuz/Kazoo server : sorting by artist, album, date added

These are the ones I can live without but it would be so cool to have ?
4- Saving shared playlist (local and/or server) in a easy way
5- "LastFM" or "AllMusic" link to information on internet about an artist (for now you cannot click on "Read more on Last.fm") or a popup window which can gives you the complete bio)
6- A way to integrate booklet with an album and be able to read it on the Controller
7- Modify the tags directly in Kazoo Controller

1 - This is a server function. Asset does this by way of it's "Recent" trees
2 - This is also a server function. Asset does this and Simon Nash is working on it for Minimserver
3 - This is up to Tidal/Qobuz. Kazoo server sorts by artist and album. Date added can be done my Minimserver if you use a custom tag
4 - This may be going to happen with the LinnLabs Cloud
5 - This is up to Last.fm sending more info and working links. If they do so, then Kazoo could be updated to handle those links
6 - Bubble DS Next does this but only Minimserver provides the booklet. But I agree it would be nice if Kazoo could do the same
7 - This would be a nightmare to implement as it would affect the databases and browse trees. Control points should only read, not write.

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2018-06-12, 16:26 (This post was last modified: 2018-06-12 16:27 by Music at Home.)
Post: #10
RE: Kazoo (my new wish list) or Kazoo "Katalyst" or Frustration
Has anyone mentioned that the 'back' function doesn't work as well as it could, in that it takes you back to the start of the previous list instead of back to the same point you came from?

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